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  Memorial invite

  by JoenB75 in

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  2. beliefs

  now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

  it always makes me a bit sad.

  i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

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  I always found the Memorial a bit macabre.

  First, attendance was treated as if it were the most important event you could ever possibly go to. You best be in bed with a high fever with a contagious illness if you were to miss the Memorial.

  Second, passing the emblems seemed like an exercise in the Exodus story of the copper serpent. Everyone just has to touch the emblems like they have been poisoned and the emblems emit the antidote which is absorbed through the skin.

  Third, about 30 years ago Witnesses started treating the Memorial like Easter & Christmas wrapped up in one. People would buy a fancy new outfit just for the Memorial (Easter Sunday outfit) and then big groups would go out to Christmas dinner after the Memorial was over. Towards the end that seemed a bit inappropriate. "We just observed the execution of an innocent man. Let's go out and celebrate!"
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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses elders guilty of failure to report sexual abuse of 6-year-old girl

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  mchenry county, woodstock, il .

  northwest herald, shaw local news.

  breaking news - read below full article - (article was blocked unless the reader has a subscription.

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  Let's say these elders get sentenced to 12 months in the county jail. Here is how it will go down -

  The Organization = Jehovah

  The Organization told us not to report = Jehovah told us not to report

  Conclusion: We are going to jail because we were obedient to Jehovah.

  
  
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  Introduction

  by joao in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm joão, from portugal.. i was a jw for about 30 years but i've stopped associating with them for about two years now.

  and, lately, i've decided to dig deep and research about this cult!

  oh boy!

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  Joao:

  Welcome! You will find all sorts of advice and support from all sorts of persons who are former JWs and persons who never were, but still participate in this community. We may seem dysfunctional from time to time, but all families are. We are family. We truly do love another in spite of differences.

  My situation was the reverse of yours. I was a born in Witness who married a woman who became a JW in her late 20s. She was a Witness probably all of 7 years before she quit. Eventually I came around and saw the Watchtower for what it truly is.

  My suggestion is to maintain your love and support of your wife and children. If they want to go to the meetings, don't just let them, help them. Do nothing to interfere in their practice of being a Witness. Do not talk about teachings or anything of a religious nature. Be happy.

  The most powerful tool to prove whether a religion is true or not is the happiness test. Happiness is not to be confused with the joy of experiencing pleasure. It is being content and the absence of mental suffering (fear, regret, sorrow, resentment). Witnesses can never be happy. That is why the religion is proven false. Arguments about doctrine can go on forever. Happiness is now or never.
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  Why is God's punishment always nonsensical?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  leviticus 10:1-3. .

  the death of nadab and abihu.

  10 aaron’s sons nadab and abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the lord, contrary to his command.

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  Getting upset with Jehovah's bloodthirsty tantrums is like getting upset with Darth Vader when he Force chokes someone. Why is it upsetting? It didn't really happen. The people in the story never existed.

  The reason is because we like to put ourselves into every story. One philosopher described it like watching a play being performed on a stage in a theater. When the actor playing the villain walks out onto the stage our reaction is to jump up on the stage an punch the villain.

  This is all function on Ego.
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  Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

  here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

  helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

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  Vanderhoven7:

  Get with Terry on the conscientious objector protocols used by the Watchtower during the Vietnam Conflict. Young men were coached by elders not to mention or to deny the fact that they were refusing military service because their religion told them to. They were to claim it was their personally held belief and for no other reason.

  I was once told about 30 years ago that if a baptized Witness enlisted into the military the Watchtower handled it by making an announcement that the individual had "disassociated themselves" rather than being disfellowshipped. The reason is fear that the U.S. government would take action against the Watchtower for subversive propaganda during wartime if they were disfellowshipping Witnesses who decided to join the war effort. This practice is deceitful unless the Witness enlisting actually did submit a letter of disassociation.

  When I was in high school there was a Witness in my congregation who was in his early 20s that joined the U.S. Navy. I promise you that he never submitted a letter of disassociation. It was announced anyways.
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  Why is God's punishment always nonsensical?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  leviticus 10:1-3. .

  the death of nadab and abihu.

  10 aaron’s sons nadab and abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the lord, contrary to his command.

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  The reason is because the YHWY of the Old Testament is a mythological story character. Zeus, Odin, Ba'al, and YHWH are are just works of fiction. The brain is addicted to story.
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  Is ACTIVISM destroying Christianity itself?

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  in this video (i watched this morning when i woke up) i suddenly discovered something i was only slightly aware ofwhich is bedeviling mainstream christianity and that a different kind of activism is at work.a different sort of "religious" movement than the one ex-jw's engage in.i'd like to get your thoughts on this.

  i'm still thinking about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gviljk-fnn0&t=616s.

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  ac·tiv·ism

  /ˈaktəˌvizəm/

  Learn to pronounce

  noun

  the policy or action of using vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.

  I see in modern times that the change desired is one that the activists attempt on through political change. That is to say, the activists desire the change be imposed through government sanctioned violence. Either change or go to prison or worse.

  That is why activism is failing and will continue to fail. If you cannot change minds there will be no change. The whole idea of government imposed social change on what some refer to as "racism" is one that cannot exist in reality.

  I prefer the approach of bringing positive change as outlined in the essay The Power of the Powerless.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dk9J4trZaI
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  May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.

  5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

  prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.

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  Overlapping Beasts (Colorized, 2022)
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  May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.

  5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

  prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.

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  Good question.

  Perhaps it was the League of Nations?

  More importantly, what external source from the Watchtower confirms their claim that the 2 Witnesses of Revelation are members of the Watchtower's board of directors?
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  This good news of the kingdom

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  growing up around the faith, whenever i heard something taught, i'd always think there is a different way of looking at that, probably better.. we always hear "this good news of the kingdom will be preached... " matt 24:14.. so i think, is there more to it than preaching the kingdom?.

  luke 17:21 the kjv and asv says "neither shall they say, lo here!

  or, lo there!

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  The divinity of Jesus was invented after his death if he even existed. When Jesus says "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you," he meant it. Jesus never said, "I am the son of God." What Jesus said in plain English is "I am divine," and he continued "Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods"'?"