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  Meeting Days Felt Different?

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
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  i dont know if it was the same for you, but for me when i was a jw meeting days seemed to have a black cloud hanging over them.

  on thursdays i knew i would be going to the meeting that evening.

  that i would be getting into my meeting clothes at 6:30pm, leaving the house at 6:55pm and be sat in the kingdom hall from 7:15pm-9pm, then milling around for about half an hour before finally getting home for 10pm.

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  Especially as I child I hated this. In addition to Tuesdays and Thursdays having to be sacrificed with with the Weekend, my parents made me go to bed early on Friday and Saturday nights because they didn't want me to be tired during field service and the meeting. I remember once there was some special function were a local facility was rented out for assembly sized attendance. A brother from Bethel was giving some sort of talk. It was held on a Friday night or a Saturday night. My whole week was nothing more than one big JW fest. I so resented that.
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  How long since your last memorial?

  by NewYork44M in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my 15th year without going to the memorial.

  based on comments, it seems i did not miss anything.

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  2010. My experience at it was what finally caused me to say "I'm done" and the next day I visited this website for the first time. I "burned the ships" as it were, because there is no going back.
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  Even LEGO must obey jesus command to keep doing this

  by Kevin McFree in

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  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/vdtwrqvgcv0.

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  "The biggest spectator sport in history."

  "There's Brother Disfellowshipped. Shun! Shun!"

  "Personally reject Jesus."

  This is by far one of the best Dubtown videos I have seen.
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  The Memorial, The Messiah, and Why it's all Bogus

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's memorial invitation on her facebook page yesterday i would have no idea it was today (note: i live a quarter mile from the local kingdom hall.

  still no invite).

  i faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until i attended my last memorial in 2010. attending the memorial actually helped me leave.. yesterday i started analyzing the event that jehovah's witnesses tout as the most important day of the year.

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  What gets me is we invite people to attend the lords evening meal only to spend most of the time telling them why they shouldn't partake! I don't think that's what Jesus intended when he said" keep doing this in remembrance of me" - NowWhat

  By far, that is the biggest part of this nonsensical circus put on by Jehovah's Witnesses. All the time, effort, and money that goes into the do-nothing event of the year. You can refuse to take the emblems without attending just as well as refusing while attending. I am not sure which is more disrespectful, but they are both pretty low.
  
  
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  The Memorial, The Messiah, and Why it's all Bogus

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's memorial invitation on her facebook page yesterday i would have no idea it was today (note: i live a quarter mile from the local kingdom hall.

  still no invite).

  i faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until i attended my last memorial in 2010. attending the memorial actually helped me leave.. yesterday i started analyzing the event that jehovah's witnesses tout as the most important day of the year.

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  If it were not for the fact that my sister posted this year's Memorial invitation on her Facebook page yesterday I would have no idea it was today (Note: I live a quarter mile from the local Kingdom Hall. Still no invite). I faded well over a decade ago, but was not mentally out until I attended my last Memorial in 2010. Attending the Memorial actually helped me leave.

  Yesterday I started analyzing the event that Jehovah's Witnesses tout as the most important day of the year. I remember well how much of a big deal they made out of it. Then it was about in the 1990s that this practice of people buying new suits or dresses and going out to dinner in large groups afterwards started. This event is as close to a Christmas as JWs will ever get.

  So, JWs proclaim that they practice the Lord's Evening Meal in the way Jesus intended. The Gospel accounts are referenced with Jesus quote "Keep on doing this in remembrance of me." The Watchtower then takes liberties in interpreting this using what they believe is reasoning -

  • Jesus instituted the Lord's Evening Meal on the same evening as Jewish Passover.
  • Jewish Passover is once a year.
  • The Memorial should be once a year on Nissan 14.

  Then the Watchtower really reaches out. I mean, it's a big stretch -

  • The Lord's Evening Meal is intended for the annointed.
  • We all should be present, but not participate, out of respect and to show we are grateful.

  If this mystical man known as Jesus of Nazareth really existed, and that's a topic for another discussion, he seemed to know the following -

  • It's Nissan 14 at sundown.
  • After celebrating Passover I will be arrested.
  • The next day I will be executed.

  Time was running out for ole Jesus. He knew that Nissan 14 was his last chance to start this whole Lord's Evening Meal. So, was it intended to be held the same night as Jewish Passover? I guess we will never know. What I suggest is that the Watchtower's reasoning is rather flimsy in regards to it being an annual event.

  Next, we look at the whole idea of the non-participating observer. Fortunately, we do have definitive scriptural proof that this is not so...maybe.

  Matthew, Mark, and Luke's account of the Lord's Evening Meal are written in a way the reader may think Judas Iscariot participated. However, John's account is different -

  So after he received the piece of bread, he went out immediately. And it was night - John 13:30

  So, during the Passover Judas Iscariot leaves the meal after it is revealed that he will betray Jesus. Why is this of importance? Simply put: Only those partaking are invited. All others - hit the road!

  Next I started researching another topic I had always wondered - Why didn't the Jews accept Jesus as the foretold Messiah? It didn't take too long to discover. So far my research shows this - He wasn't!
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  A good idea not to have Children

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone one here remember any articles in the watchtower in the nineteen sixties or seventies that specifically stated the that the witnesses should refrain from having children because of the proximity of armageddon?.

  i guess i should never have made a bound fire with my thirty years of bound volumes lol.

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  NO - w2016/4 p.9 Par.17 Being Faithful Leads To Gods' Approval
  17. (b) How do the words at Hebrews 6:10-12 encourage you to be self sacrificing?
  Would it be possible for you to make additional sacrifices to serve Jehovah more fully?

  This is a big factor in why my left JWs. The constant urging to make more sacrifices. In other words - what ever you are doing isn't good enough.
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  A good idea not to have Children

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone one here remember any articles in the watchtower in the nineteen sixties or seventies that specifically stated the that the witnesses should refrain from having children because of the proximity of armageddon?.

  i guess i should never have made a bound fire with my thirty years of bound volumes lol.

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  It's funny how you cannot hold a position in the congregation for sending your kid to college but you can for having a kid. According to the Witnesses, wouldn't that show a lack of faith and a lack of belief that we are in the last part of the Last Days? I wish it were enforced. The whole cult would literally die off in a generation. A real generation and not an overlapping generation.
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  Yay! I get to go to the memorial this weekend

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i kind of expected it.

  this is an event that even satan himself could attend.

  yes, if the wt don't quit blaming satan for everything, soon he will be more qualified for mercy than the f&d slave himself (or themselves).

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  Go hungry. I hear the Lord's Evening Meal is rather tasty.
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  Heart wrenching letter

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't know why i read this stuff it makes me so upset 😅 but although it's sad and frustrating it also is encouraging in a way:.

  http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/letter-1/.

  http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/letter-2/.

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  truth_b_known

  Letter #1 is powerful. This man served as an elder and saw first hand what the real purpose of the elder arrangement is - preserve, protect, and defend the organization.

  Letter #2 reveals just how in depth the bureaucracy of the organization is.
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  Does the Watchtower have an official position on Alcoholics Anonymous?

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because i'm working in a 28 day residential addiction treatment center and one of my co-workers is studying with the jw's.

  he does not know i'm an xjw.

  i suspect that at some point they're going to tell him he can't go to aa meetings anymore.

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  truth_b_known

  I can only recall that it is "frowned on" (i.e. You won't hold any positions in the congregation, but you can't be DFed) because some of the program is religious based. Not denominational, but generic Bible/Christian based.