Posts by Badfish

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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

by done4good in

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i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

Badfish

Ever since taking the test for the first time in college 8 years ago, I've always tested as an INTP.

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Drinking and JWN

by BU2B in

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i am drinking a japanese beer called kirin ichiban right now exploring the wonderful threads of the past here on jwn.

i love this forum so much.. how many here enjoy an adult beverage while browsing jwn?

i love all of you guys :).

Badfish

I usually drink too much and post things I forget about until much later. Then I go back and read them and kick myself in the face.

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Clash of Clans

by sooner7nc in

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in case anyone plays it i started a clan called apostateparadiz.. hit me up if you want to join.

if not don't.. .

m..

Badfish

I play Clash of Clans but I'm in a high level clan right now. Update this if you get more members and I'll join you :)

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On a Scale of 1 to 10---How Devoted Were You To Being One of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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as i grew up in the religion, i was a 10. i wanted to be made a "servant" because that was instilled in me from infancy.

i diligently studied ever piece of watchtower literature and defended my religion intensely.. when i got into my 30's, i started to see little cracks in the watchtower's surface but decided to "wait on jehovah".

then i started to research a little more critically and realized i couldn't defend the prophecies, the treatment of people and the hypocrisy that was becoming more obvious, that especially an elder can see.. it was a gradual thing---from a 10 to a zero!.

Badfish

Maybe 2 or 3. I was a born-in, but never got baptized. The indroctrination from birth slowly faded the older I got.

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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.

by BU2B in

if one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.

if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.

how do jws not see the obvious?

Badfish

Treat others as you would be treated " is the first gem, and most powerful IMO.

" Love your neighbor as yourself " is the second.

And yet he placed this as the second greatest commandment.

Consider your statement:

Christians might claim they worship Jesus, not Yahweh. Perhaps they do, but why do they worship someone who clearly did not seek the peoples worship, nor wanted to be anyones leader? It is clear Jesus wanted one thing: not worship, but for the people to emulate his behavior, to be LIKE him, not to think him a god and beg him for free stuff. That's the OLD way, which he came to uproot. He called us his friends and siblings, NOT his minions and serfs.

His actual greatest commandment was:

"You must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your strength, and all your mind."

If YHWH was really a devil pretending to be God, why didn't Jesus just come out and say "Yahweh was a false God. Instead, you must love Yaldabaoth with all your heart, all your soul, all your strength, and all your mind"?

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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.

by BU2B in

if one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.

if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.

how do jws not see the obvious?

Badfish

If the god of the Old Testament was Satan, why did Jesus quote from the Old Testament 84 times?

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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.

by BU2B in

if one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.

if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.

how do jws not see the obvious?

Badfish

By what rationale does one conclude that YHWH is a false god and Christ is true, when both are central characters in a book you just described as containing information propagated by a charlatan deity?

Not to to mention all the OT scriptures prophesying about the coming messiah, as well as Jesus quoting from OT scriptures.

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Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

by leaving_quietly in

wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

" in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

Badfish

Isn't 1878 a date they used to say the 'invisible presence' of Jesus started?

If you take the difference between the Gregorian calendar and the 360 day prophetic years (365.2425 - 360) you get 5.2425

Now, multiply 2520 x 5.2425 = 13211.1 days.

Divide 13211.1 / 365.2425 = 36 years.

1914 - 36 = 1878

Were they using the 360-day years to come up with 1878 before, and then changed it later to 1914?

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Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

by leaving_quietly in

wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

" in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

Badfish

They are not really dividing 2520 by 365 to find out where the 2520 years end.

I don't know very much about this subject, but the way I understand it is:

Basically, they are saying x = 2520 / 7 = 360, where x = the days in a year.

Then they are taking 2520 and subtracting 607 to get 1913. Adjusting for the turn from 1 BCE to 1 CE, they add one year to get 1914.

However, they fail to recognize that the date 1914 is from the Gregorian calendar, which would mean x = 365.24

So even if you were to assume the pivotal date 607 BCE is correct to begin with, the actual numbers you would have to use to arrive at 1914 would be incorrect as well.

Did I get this right?

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Here we go again. Dan 4 and 1914

by leaving_quietly in

wtbts published a new article on jw.org (http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/daniel-4-bible-chronology-1914/) entitled "what does bible chronology indicate about the year 1914?

" in it, it points to daniel 4 as the prophecy and uses the same leaps of insane logic to get from the first and only fulfillment of that prophecy to 1914, using 607 as the starting point and 2,520 years as doubling the 1,260 years in revelation.

of course, there is no accounting for the difference in our solar years and the bible's lunar years, which makes the math have a very different outcome.

Badfish

If I might ask, what Gregorian years do you end up with when you factor in the solstices and the equinoxes to the 360 day-years, when subtracting 607 and 587 years from 2520?