Posts by Jeff1

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I've made my decision...

by Jeff1 in

i've only made one topic post prior to this one and for the past two months i've been reading practically everyone's posts.

im not one to rush into anything so when i found out about the arc, multiple lawsuits, keeping pedophiles hidden, and 587 bc being the actual date jerusalem fell i decided to research everything myself.

i've always admired the beroeans as they made it their aim to research and see if the things they heard were true.

Jeff1

Yes Vanderhoven7, I was baptized and have been for about 10 years now. I had the privilege of being able to wait until I was old enough to make the decision myself.

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I've made my decision...

by Jeff1 in

i've only made one topic post prior to this one and for the past two months i've been reading practically everyone's posts.

im not one to rush into anything so when i found out about the arc, multiple lawsuits, keeping pedophiles hidden, and 587 bc being the actual date jerusalem fell i decided to research everything myself.

i've always admired the beroeans as they made it their aim to research and see if the things they heard were true.

Jeff1

Thanks. I'm hoping to leave in the smoothest way possible. I'd rather not make waves as I know that nothing good would come of it. No one would listen to me at the Hall or in my family anyways.

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I've made my decision...

by Jeff1 in

i've only made one topic post prior to this one and for the past two months i've been reading practically everyone's posts.

im not one to rush into anything so when i found out about the arc, multiple lawsuits, keeping pedophiles hidden, and 587 bc being the actual date jerusalem fell i decided to research everything myself.

i've always admired the beroeans as they made it their aim to research and see if the things they heard were true.

Jeff1

I've only made one topic post prior to this one and for the past two months I've been reading practically everyone's posts. Im not one to rush into anything so when I found out about the ARC, multiple lawsuits, keeping pedophiles hidden, and 587 BC being the actual date Jerusalem fell i decided to research everything myself.

I've always admired the Beroeans as they made it their aim to research and see if the things they heard were true. So likewise I do the same. I personally believe it to be ignorant if you're going into a discussion without knowing the opposing side or if you immediately dismiss anything anyone else says because it's different from what you believe to be true. Being a JW my whole life, as you already know, I've only heard one side.

In my research I found everything out to be true. Pedophiles are being hidden behind the two witness rule. Jerusalem did fall in 587 BC and the only reason the GB doesn't want to change it is because they have to admit they're not inspired by God to all JWs, and then lose the position they have. And the reason they're selling all the KHs is to get more money to pay for the lawsuits they've had to go through.

I've still been going to the meetings but each time I'm there I don't find myself listening to anything because I feel that I can't truly trust anything that's mentioned there. The people I've come to know for years are still very friendly. I know they are earnestly trying to do whats right, but unfortunately the people that are supposed to direct them are two-faced. Worst part about it is I can't ask questions and I can't speak out because the second I do I'm labeled as an apostate.

I told my father everything. Showed him all the evidence and he believes me and knows that the GB is in the wrong. It wasn't bad to tell him since he isn't in the truth only my mother is and she joined the Jdubs after she got married.

I may have to still go since I'm still at home with my PIMI mom but once I finish college im going to just head out to another state, get a job, and just fade.

Through all of this I can say that I'm severely disappointed in the organization. I can only equate this to a child being told Santa exists but finds out years later that it isn't true haha. At least I found out while I'm young.

Thanks for everything you've done guys. You've truly shown me the TTATT.

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Paradise Earth

by Jeff1 in

just recently i was looking at a topic on jwfacts entitled 'paradise on earth forever.

' from the research paul did on this topic he mentioned that there is no biblical evidence of an earthly resurrection.

i haven't heard this before but wanted to get some thoughts on this topic.

Jeff1

I'm still here and constantly reading the replies. A few of them I'm somewhat surprised to see on here. I wasn't sure what I would get but I certainly wasn't prepared to receive replies from those who seem to not believe in the Bible haha.

I'm not one to believe something without doing sufficient research first and I won't shut off my ears just because it's something I have never heard of or don't agree with.

If anyone does that I feel that it is ignorant to do so. Even the Bible itself says to constantly see if you are in the truth. That's exactly what I'm doing. Is what I'm reading and learning true?

After hearing so much about Paradise earth before hand it was very interesting to hear and this is the reason I wanted to believe in it :

The way human beings are living now is not inherently bad but I do feel that we could all do better. There are problems that are going on on the earth that should have been solved countless years ago. The hatred I see on the news and in person is revolting and id much rather have an outside force (God) wipe the slate clean and do away with all the wickedness that's on the earth. Regardless of what problems we solve today, the next day will bring more because everyone is on a different frame of mind. We all have different outlooks.

Unfortunately the only way for their to be true peace, in my opinion, is if everyone has the same mindset.

Paradise earth being placed on Earth seems like the best option I've heard.

I apologize for me rambling, but I appreciate everyones time reading what I've written.

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Paradise Earth

by Jeff1 in

just recently i was looking at a topic on jwfacts entitled 'paradise on earth forever.

' from the research paul did on this topic he mentioned that there is no biblical evidence of an earthly resurrection.

i haven't heard this before but wanted to get some thoughts on this topic.

Jeff1

Hello !

Just recently I was looking at a topic on jwfacts entitled 'Paradise on Earth forever.' From the research Paul did on this topic he mentioned that there is no biblical evidence of an earthly resurrection. I haven't heard this before but wanted to get some thoughts on this topic. Here is the link : https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/earth-forever.php

I'm currently doing research and it seems odd that Isaiah had a prophecy that clearly sounds as if there would be a Paradise earth in Isaiah 11:6-9 and also in Revelation 21:3,4.

If by some chance that there isn't a resurrection hope, by this articles findings, then I have two questions to pose :

1) If we aren't designed to live forever on this Earth why didn't God just create us in heaven in the first place?

2) Since the 144,000 are the only ones who will have a "resurrection" (to heaven) what hope do any of us have that are not anointed?

For the second question, it seems to me that there is no reason to continue serving God if you're not anointed because when you die nothing comes after and even if you are one of the few that live through armageddon, you'll eventually die anyway!

In that case, it seems that you might as well just live life for yourself. You can see how that is very disappointing right?
As I stated earlier I wanted to get thoughts from other people on this article. I'm not stating that either side is true or false as the information from the Bible itself should be able prove what is true.
I hope that everything I have written is clearly understood and would be happy to make corrections if I wrote down something wrong.