Posts by 3rdgen

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1975 !

by Sea Breeze in

how many of you here remember 1975?

i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

3rdgen

144thousand_and_one,

If your parents are still living, what is your relationship like now? If not, did they ever accept that you left before they passed?

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1975 !

by Sea Breeze in

how many of you here remember 1975?

i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

3rdgen

With "Born Ins" the older you are when you leave, the more of your life you have wasted.

I first learned this when I left my 30 year long 1st marriage. From the age of 17 -47 I loved and trusted that man until I found out he was living a double life the ENTIRE time!

Then, at age 60 I realized my Religion was rotten from the top down. That's a lot of past down the drain. It is not worry I feel. It is frustration with myself for having blind trust in people and a corporation disguised as a religion. Aggravated that I made the choice to ignore the MANY red flags I saw all along.

I agree that Bitterness only hurts the bitter person, so I chose to be thankful that Baalam'sAss and I at least will not spend our last days/years stuck in a cult or a terrible marriage.

The only thing worse than being clueless for 60 years is being clueless 60 years and one day.

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Bible Reading Schedule, Dumbed Down?

by Slidin Fast in

jw
friends

has any body noticed that the bible reading schedule has been reduced to one chapter per week.

does any one know if this is a policy change or something temporary?

at this rate the complete cycle will take 22 years plus..

3rdgen

Most JWs I knew did not read the assigned Bible reading weekly.

They read the Bible weakly.

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1975 !

by Sea Breeze in

how many of you here remember 1975?

i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

3rdgen

Yup, Carter

Those my age who are STILL PIMI are in serious Denial.

Baalam'sAss and I don't deny any of it. We just feel STOOPID for staying long after we should have known better.

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1975 !

by Sea Breeze in

how many of you here remember 1975?

i hope the newer generations never forget.the true believers got shamed for it.

those who were hedging their bets, fared much better.

3rdgen

Never underestimate the power of "Peer Pressure".

If everyone you are close to is POSITIVE that the "Great Tribulation" will arrive ON or BEFORE 1975 and they are older and more knowledgeable than you, what would you think?

I was a freshman in HS in 1966. The hype was beginning then. Each year after that, the anticipation intensified. The Rank and File did not start it. The Writing Committee headed by F. Franz Started it all by SAYING IN PRINT how close the end is and specifically naming 1975 as a MARKED YEAR in mankind's history. Did it stop there? absolutely NOT!

Circuit Servants (as they were called then) came every 6 months and gave talks OUTLINED by WTBTS telling JWs we had only months to preach and study with people before the end. When the TRUTH BOOK was released 1968 we were soon instructed to drop a Bible study in 6 months if they weren't close to Baptism because the time was too short to waste on those who couldn't make up their mind.

Between 1968 and 1975 The Magazines, Kingdom Ministry, Assemblies, Conventions, Special Speakers, the ENTIRE CULTURE was centered around "THE END" being MONTHS away. In 1972 my then husband who was a Ministerial Servant built a small, modest 2 bed house. He was counseled before the elders for "Living as though the end is not near", thus, setting a "bad example."

Every aspect of our lives were scrutinized by everyone else in the congregation with the added pressure of "Talking the talk". Things like, We're planning a vacation this summer, unless of course, the End comes" Every assembly ended with that as well. We are moving to where the "need is great" was often said. "You will probably not finish High School, let alone College" Said to me and my peers. Endless Pressure, endless talk by LEADERSHIP. No wonder I tuned out of High School and married at 17.

Was the teenager I was at the time "Running ahead of the organization? Or were WE as members encouraged and rewarded by the leadership to 'PUT KINGDOM INTERESTS FIRST" ? Meaning Pioneer, skip College, skip marriage and children if you can. etc. Were my young JW peers who dropped out of school to pioneer or pioneered right out of High school counseled or praised? I'll give you one guess! Who were used as examples on Service Meeting and Assembly parts? Those MOST EXTREME in their field service, lifestyle and language!

Were COs and DOs chastised for stirring up this HYPE from the "Society"? What do you think? When it came to comments from the audience at ALL the meetings, was anyone corrected for saying the end is Sure to come by 1975? HELL NO! Remember I was there, I was listening to every word, and I was 23 in 1975.

I was there when the Watchtower study article in 1972 stated that failing to Pioneer this close to the end is: TANTIMOUNT TO MURDER. It's in print, we studied it. WE didn't write that Sh**, THEY DID!!!

Only when 1975 came and went and then it was the 1980's did anyone in Management stop saying the stuff that caused the hysteria in the first place.

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Curious? How many members of this group feel we are living in the "End Times"?

by Balaamsass2 in

i like to take a peek at the kids over on reddit every week or so.. this thread caught my eye:" curious….

do any ex jw or pimo, still believe the world is ending.

i see people who have never been witnesses think that the world will end soon and they say things like “jesus is coming soon”….

3rdgen

Thank you for the Welcome Sea Breeze.

I left Watchtower in 2008. It took another 4 years for Watchtower to leave me. I mean in the sense of looking at life through my old Watchtower lens.

What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. Ours is an individual journey.

Something those who leave share in common are our various emotional scars.

Whether or not we stay religious should be decided only after we have changed out our warped lens.

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Too Much Video ?

by HereIam60 in

does anyone feel the same way?

i am not anti-video, just feeling overload.

since the jw organization started video production there has been such a flood of it that no one can, or possibly even wants to keep up with it all: some thoughts and questions i"ve had -.

3rdgen

DOC

EXACTLY!

Also makes the flock think they need to donate for the studio and the production costs.

A win win for Watchtower.

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Curious? How many members of this group feel we are living in the "End Times"?

by Balaamsass2 in

i like to take a peek at the kids over on reddit every week or so.. this thread caught my eye:" curious….

do any ex jw or pimo, still believe the world is ending.

i see people who have never been witnesses think that the world will end soon and they say things like “jesus is coming soon”….

3rdgen

The OP asks how many of us STILL believe that we are living in the last days. Of those who responded, I carefully read each answer and came up with the following:

8 believe in the second coming of Christ. Of those, no one seems to be sure whether or not we are in the "Last Days"

2 were vague if they are believers or not.

8 appear to have put belief in "End Times" behind.

It's interesting there is such an even split between leaving Watchtower behind and leaving religious belief behind. It is also Very interesting to me how many believers disagree with each other about how, when, where Jesus returns, etc. It seems as though about 1/2 of the believers think the other 1/2 are wrong.

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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂

by Diogenesister in

🤦‍♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.

this link is hilarious!

they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?

3rdgen

Many years ago my relative sent for an Awake magazine in Pidgin English and showed it to me. It was hilarious!

I wish i could remember some of the phrases.

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PIMA is best so it’s not a shock to the system if the tower collapsed

by JohnR1975 in

i know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.

mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.

i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.

3rdgen

The only truly happy still in JWs I know are what a friend and I call "Jet Set" witnesses.

They several things in common:

#1 They have plenty of money. They inherited it or ignored the endless counsel to "put Kingdom interests first" during their earning years.

#2 They are fun-loving. No Debbie Downers allowed.

#3 They ONLY travel, party, and closely associate with people who keep their MOUTHS SHUT about "questionable conduct" within the group.

#4 They are in reasonably good or better health.