Interested in hearing more about what is wrong with these brochures.
It seems to me a single scripture out of context and then another is bad all by itself, but I have come to be suspicious of the WT publication's illustrations.
ShadesofGrey
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"Listen To God and Live Forever" brochure
by lilbluekitty ini just recieved a "care package" from my mother (i'm inactive, haven't been to a meeting in a few months but haven't specifically said to her that i don't want to be a jw anymore) and in it, among other things, are 2 new brochures (one is simplified) called listen to god and live forever.. has anyone else seen these?
i think you can get them in pdf form on the jw.org website.
has anyone else noticed some of the weird pictures?
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A Question About Satan (For Those Who Believe In The Bible)
by Philadelphia Ponos inwhen the bible mentions satan do you believe it's speaking of a paticular indivuial or is the term satan used for multiple people?
to be more specific, do believe the satan that tempted eve, told david to take a census, tested job, and tempted jesus are the same person or 4 different people?.
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As a newborn, I can't learn everything at once. I came here looking for answers, rather than to give my own.
This is pretty much the extent of my knowlege on the subject of Satan:
Hebrews 2: 14 Therefore, since the “young children” are sharers of blood and flesh, he also similarly partook of the same things, that through his death he might bring to nothing the one having the means to cause death, that is, the Devil; 15 and [that] he might emancipate all those who for fear of death were subject to slavery all through their lives.
I have assumed that there is only one Satan, since I take God at his word, and the Bible says one, in more places than this.
Shades
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Shattering The Myth Of Mother Teresa
by Bangalore inshattering the myth of mother teresa.. http://www.daylightatheism.org/2008/05/mother-teresa.html.
http://indianrealist.wordpress.com/2010/05/14/the-squalid-truth-behind-the-legacy-of-mother-teresa/.
bangalore.
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ShadesofGrey
Hmmm... sound familiar?
Teresa considered converting the sick and the poor to be a higher priority than providing for their actual needs, and believed that human suffering was beneficial and even "beautiful".
Here is one of interest to Christians:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1655720,00.html
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Halloween as a Jehovah's Witness Kid
by Badfish inwhat was your experience like as a kid on halloween growing up in a jw family?.
i was raised in a jw family but never got baptized.. my father used to make me and my sister put old awakes and watchtower's in the trick or treaters' bags.
we would say: "i don't celebrate halloween but here's a treat for you!
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ShadesofGrey
Mrs. Jones: Thank you, friend.
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Halloween as a Jehovah's Witness Kid
by Badfish inwhat was your experience like as a kid on halloween growing up in a jw family?.
i was raised in a jw family but never got baptized.. my father used to make me and my sister put old awakes and watchtower's in the trick or treaters' bags.
we would say: "i don't celebrate halloween but here's a treat for you!
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As Christians, we had decided not to celebrate Halloween. So we told our daughter we would not be giving out candy. We took our kids to an alternative party a week prior to Halloween and dressed up in non-scary costumes and got a lot of candy. But Halloween itself was still a no. So we turned off the porch light and closed the window and the kids were peeping through the slats to see the trick or treaters just as I did when I was a JW kid (torture).
My daughter could take it no more and opened the window. Doorbell rings. Candy for all of the cutesy spidermen, pirates and princesses. Joy on all faces. Neighbors (the parents) waving to me. Lecture for daughter. "But I just want to make the little kids happy." I understand. Do we love our neighbors that are going to the effort to trick or treat and understand that they have their own conscience or do we take a stand on the holiday? Confusion in my heart.
Shades.
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Baptism in Holy Spirit and in Fire
by Inkie inthis morning my brother asked me a question about the following biblical text.
i indeed baptize you in water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than i, whose shoes i am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you in the holy spirit and in fire.matthew 3:11. .
apparently, it seems, the brothers statement came from the societys cd-rom.
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Not arguing with SA at all (love to you my friend), just giving my perspective.
My brother is named Michael. His in-laws call him Miguel. He doesn't mind. They show that they love him and spend more time with him than those that use his given name.
At this time I do occassionally use Hebrew names for my Lord and my God, but I use either Jesus or Jehovah when speaking to others, as they are familiar with those names.
The term name has more meaning than the mere name as we think of it... as a label. When we do things in God's name, we are doing things by His power. When we know God's name, we know Him. There are people who know me as a different name, due to the way I post on forums, but know me better than those that know my given name.
Either or both of us could be mistaken. That does not mean that we are not Children of God. I do not require children to have all of the details right about me before adopting them, and God is more loving than I am.
Shades.
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Undeserved Kindness vs Grace - Watchtower flaw in a NUTSHELL
by sabastious inromans 1:7. new international version.
"to all in rome who are loved by god and called to be saints: .
grace and peace to you from god our father and from the lord jesus christ.".
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Thanks so much for bumping this back up. I had been questioning this very thing. What really is grace?
In bible study we were told that God would grant us the grace to get through a trial. Undeserved kindness and loyal love do not seem to replace the word there.
I have been discouraged lately and this thread is really lifting me up. I will be readngg with rapt attention.
Sister Shades
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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As a Christian, I believe that Hellfire preachers cause harm. They are representing my God, the God of grace and justice. In the OT not every sin required the death penalty did it? In the NT there were 4 slaves mentioned in Luke chapter 12... not only 2.
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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?
by AK - Jeff inestimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
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ShadesofGrey
Here is an idea: Religion and a relationship with God are two different things. Religion is man-made and evil, and it is exactly what Christ came to earth to get rid of.
When he spoke of people being condemned who was he speaking to/about? Religious leaders.
Shades
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Hello--new to the witnesses...and you
by LKM injust wanted to introduce myself.
i went to the kh for the first time 2 weeks ago...and will go again tomorrow.
i don't believe anything witnessy...(i was raised in the assembly of god church and now the closest thing i "do" with religion is yoga or sometimes the buddhist temple).... but the man i'm in love with is a df'd jw (we've been together for 6 years).... and he wants to get reinstated just to talk to his family again (i can assure you he does not believe it).... and he wants his family to accept me because we are about to get married... so, i'm going to meetings...its very interesting, but only because it shows me more about how he was raised.
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ShadesofGrey
Here are two links that you simply must read in order.