this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
This is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.
So according to Genesis, who told the first lie? God told Eve that if she ate from the Tree of Knowledge she would die that very same day. In response to that statement the Devil told her she would not die.
Eve ate from the Tree and did not die. God lied.
big news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
More than happy to continue the conversation re the first lie but seems impolite to derail this topic. I'll start a fresh one if no-one else does it first.
big news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
@slimboyfat
When we read the Devil's only conversation with Eve as recorded in Genesis 3:1-5 what do we find? That the Devil asked one question of Eve and made a few specific statements, all of which were completely true. The most important of those statements was a direct response to God's warning not to eat the forbidden fruit. God said; “because on the day you eat from it, you will die!” Satan’s response? “You won’t die.” Genesis 3:4 CEB
So who was telling the truth? Did Eve die on the day she ate from the tree of knowledge? No. The Devil had told the truth, God had lied.
big news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
FragrantAddendum: watchtower writers are so full of crap, they are not jehovah's witnesses they're liars, like their father the devil.
What lie did the devil ever tell? None as far as I can see.
https://cne.news/article/4320-small-church-in-rome-goes-to-the-big-court-in-strasbourg-to-find-justice?push=null .
the evangelical church in rome will move to strasbourg to seek justice from the european court on human rights (ecthr) to eliminate the huge tax burden.
in the meantime, protestants all over the world are amazed by what is happening in italy..
FragrantAddendum: you know a religious group is a fake if it signs up for corporate status to get out of paying taxes
All religious groups are fake, every last one of them. No matter how sincere or harmless, not one religious group favours truth over dogma.
From the home Bible study groups to Catholicism, religion is fake.
Don't flatter yourself just because you can easily spot fakery in the cult you've just left. Take the rafter out of your own eye first.
the governing body claims to be the ruling part of the 144k jews in revelation.
wt leaders wiped out 4-5 generations of my family, and nearly took me out as well.
i will see this injustice settled however long it takes.
Personal beliefs do NOT equal facts or evidence. (I know some will disagree)
I strongly agree 👍
the governing body claims to be the ruling part of the 144k jews in revelation.
wt leaders wiped out 4-5 generations of my family, and nearly took me out as well.
i will see this injustice settled however long it takes.
All else aside, I'm genuinely sorry for your loss. You, and of course your Mother, deserved so much better.
the governing body claims to be the ruling part of the 144k jews in revelation.
wt leaders wiped out 4-5 generations of my family, and nearly took me out as well.
i will see this injustice settled however long it takes.
Sea Breeze: WT leaders wiped out 4-5 generations of my family
Is this just a metaphor or something more serious?
i noticed awhile ago jw.org was first; now jwn is back being first.
what determines that?.
Whichever one of us has the most powerful demons at the time.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
To receive the full state pension in the UK you need to have paid thirty years worth of National Insurance contributions (a specific, earnings related tax).
Whatever his payment record was before his move to Croatia, it will certainly have stalled since then and is unlikely to resume anytime soon.
Hope he's putting plenty into a private pension or he's screwed. Actually, that's good advice for everyone - full state pension or not.
