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  Punkofnice

  by jhine in

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  does anyone know how punky is ?

  he hasn't posted in a while ?

  jan from tam .

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  he's ok and getting on with life

  Lovely to hear, thanks for passing that on Jan
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  The Sickening Sadism of Christianity

  by cofty in

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  burning heretics alive was a common practice in medieval europe.

  i cannot begin to imagine the depravity of the mind that invented this cruelty, let alone the inhumanity and callousness of those who carried out the act.

  sometimes an individual would take pity on the victim and hide gunpowder among the wood faggots to hasten their death.. there is only one way to make this scenario even more depraved, infinitely depraved in fact; and that would require magic powers.

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  nicolaou

  "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners have much more fun" Billy Joel.
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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

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  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  nicolaou

  Why should chemicals care what reaction they have? In the atheist paradigm that’s pretty much all we are right?
  One chemical reaction goes fizz, another one goes bang. Who cares? That’s how atheists describe their formation right? It’s all just chemicals and chance.

  You're so hung up on this. I'm no more a bag of chemicals than you are just "dust from the ground". You really have no idea how insulting you are do you Sea Breeze?
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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  nicolaou

  Are you fucking kidding me?

  He's not kidding Vidiot. If people said about Jews and Muslims the sort of things that Sea Breeze says about atheists they'd be labelled antisemitic or Islamaphobic.

  Not sure why his particular brand of bigotry is tolerated.
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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  nicolaou

  That's interesting Slim'. I'm sure I remember being taught that anyone killed in the Flood (or as with Korah and others executed directly by Jehovah) that there would be no resurrection as God's judgements are perfect and everlasting. I stand to be corrected though.

  Either way it sort of makes my point. You can only really know a person by what they've done, not what they say they're going to do.
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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  nicolaou

  For decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of God slaughtering billions in a future Armageddon who never even met a JW much less heard their life-saving message. (Remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?) Also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the Witnesses?

  So now we have a new doctrine which says that folks can change their minds at the very last minute and still be saved. It won't matter if you rejected the 'Kingdom Message' previously or even if you'd never heard it - God can judge your heart and you can still be saved. Awww. Whilst senior JW's may resent this doctrinal update it's presented as a more reasonable interpretation by the Org' who, with faux modesty, can claim "we just don't know".

  The problem is, we DO know.

  God has already killed folks who'd never heard of him including babies and children (I've posted plenty on this and won't rehash it all again here). So when your JW relative tells you how this new light is a more loving provision from Jehovah just remind them of what Jehovah has done in the past.

  We wouldn't take the word of a serial killer or abuser that they're going to change their ways in future much less the word of a PR team who profit from them. No, we judge what a person is likely to do in the future from what they have already done in the past.

  God's past is recorded in detail, we have his crime sheet and a record of all his past offences. Why believe his lawyers now?
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  Former Kingdom Hall is now a Swaminarayan Temple!

  by Atlantis in

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  this former kingdom hall is now a hindu swaminarayan temple!

  to the far right of the picture, the two tower pillars are obvious by the red and green flags.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/d8e6115a .

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  nicolaou

  Makes sense for the devil to pool his resources

  More Christian bigotry Sea Breeze?
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

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  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  nicolaou: "Claiming such as a fact because you "believe it" is misleading and dishonest."

  I was actually trying to be sarcastic, and a bit tongue in cheek, but the dry media of pure text didn't convey it very well.

  That along with my long held suspicion that I may be somewhere on the spectrum. I'm very linear in thought and tend to take things literally.

  No biggie, it's all good.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

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  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  NotFormer: I wrote it as fact, because I believe it to be fact, based on the educated guesses, i.e. speculation, of many here

  Nah, that doesn't work. If all you have (by your own admission) are educated guesses and speculation then be honest enough to say so. Claiming such as a fact because you "believe it" is misleading and dishonest.

  just as in your unbacked-by-facts opinion, it isn't

  Vienne didn't claim that your assertion wasn't factual just that it wasn't proven.

  You're all over the place mate.
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  NORWAY Verdict : The Aftermath

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.

  few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.

  he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.

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  I think the state has a good case in the ECHRJehovah's Witnesses have not yet decided whether they will appeal the verdict to the Court of Appeal. Should the case end up at the top of the legal system, Blaker Strand believes that the state has a good case.

  
  - It is a judgment that will stand up in the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), she says.

  I'm an absolute layman but would the Org risk an appeal to the ECHR if it was likely to uphold the Norwegian judgement? Surely that would set a precedent for all EU member states and the society would be at risk from any activist who chose to challenge their charitable status.

  Interesting times for sure.