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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

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  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I have no reason at all to think Russell lied when he stated: "I have never been a Mason." (Sermon: The Temple of God)
  

  I'm glad someone finally located this quote, as I had remembered reading it before. WT bibliophiles are sometimes only aware of what was published by the WT society officially, and are not much interested in other books which were produced individually by different Bible Students. A couple of really interesting ones were 'What Pastor Russell Said' and 'Pastor Russell's Sermons'. In one of those books I remember reading the Pastor Russell stated he was not a Mason. Whether those books are still being reprinted or not I do not know.
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I'm surprised no one has brought up in this discussion the underlying anti-Masonic rhetoric in the northeast US (particularly upstate New York) during the 1800's. The Wikipedia article would be a good place to start:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonic_Party

  Maybe this doesn't have a direct connection to Russell, but it provides some context to the historical environment in which he lived.

  The point being that there have been many people over the years who have had (and still do have) a deep suspicion of the 'secrecy' of the FreeMasons.
  
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  JW Flag Salute Cases in Florida

  by Kenneson in

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  i was doing research on a certain topic this afternoon at the state library, and ran across a jehovah's witness related article that i would like to share.

  it's from "citrus, sawmills, critters, crackers: life in early lutz and central pasco county" by elizabeth ruiegler macmanus and susan a. macmanus (tampa: university of tampa press, 1998), pages 351-353. lutz is located near tarpon springs, florida.

  the heading of this article is :"importance of schooling.".

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I stand corrected. MacMillan's book Faith on the March says that he was married in 1902, but after that there is no mention of his wife that I could find.
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  JW Flag Salute Cases in Florida

  by Kenneson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was doing research on a certain topic this afternoon at the state library, and ran across a jehovah's witness related article that i would like to share.

  it's from "citrus, sawmills, critters, crackers: life in early lutz and central pasco county" by elizabeth ruiegler macmanus and susan a. macmanus (tampa: university of tampa press, 1998), pages 351-353. lutz is located near tarpon springs, florida.

  the heading of this article is :"importance of schooling.".

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I've never heard or seen that AH MacMillan was ever married. So I have to question the news article in the OP that states that a Mary MacMillan who was teaching school in the 1940's was his wife. He would have been over 70 by then as well. It's possible, I suppose, but I find it doubtful.
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  Russell's aleged freemasonry on JWfacts.com

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  paul has written an interesting piece on jwfacts.com .

  https://jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/russell-not-a-freemason.php.

  anyway, it jogged my memory and reminded me of something i thought i would pass on to you.back in the late 80s i had the opportunity to chat with ray franz on the phone and i asked him about this very thing.he didn't say yes or no to russel's masonic connection but what he said was something like, "he is buried in the masonic section of the cemetery so draw your own conclusion.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Love the chart Finklestein, I haven't seen that for a while. Good for a laugh
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  what is the rarest JW book?

  by dogon in

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  what is the rarest jb book ever printed?

  i just bought a copy of the finished mystery and it can be a bit rare.

  but i bet there are others much more rare.

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  I have something totally unique. A family member worked in the bindery at Bethel in '79 and he made a copy of the Commentary on the Letter of James for me with Blue embossed letters on the cover (the standard letters were gold). Pretty neat.
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  WT NY sells of more property / land

  by darkspilver in

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  what was it that wt sold here??.

  river-to-river trail to provide a pedestrian route to gunks.

  the open space institute (osi), a new york environmental conservation group dedicated to protecting and enhancing recreational access to local landscapes... purchased the plot of land between new paltz and the mountains from watchtower society of new york, a jehovah’s witnesses group, for $2.1 million.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Wow, it seems like a lot of money for unimproved land that will be a trail corridor. Do we know how much acreage is included in the sale?
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  what is the rarest JW book?

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the rarest jb book ever printed?

  i just bought a copy of the finished mystery and it can be a bit rare.

  but i bet there are others much more rare.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I had a reprint copy of The Three Worlds at one time, and based on the writing style and comparing it to the writing of the Divine Plan, I would say that Russell didn't write The Three Worlds. He did front the money to print it, however, as the previous poster noted.
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  Looking for an original copy of The Finished Mystery 1918

  by dogon in

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  if anyone has a original copy of the finished mystery 1918 they would sell contact me at [email protected].

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I had a reprinted copy at one time. I agree that it was one of the worst written books I ever tried to read. I never did make it more than ten pages.
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  1919 a Date with Zero Prophetic Meaning

  by JW_Rogue in

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  i've noticed that lately the wt has been using the date 1919 more often.

  in an almost matter of fact way, they will state that this is the year jesus finished refining his people and appointed the fds.

  the only problem is there is little proof or even prophetic antitypes given for why this must have been the year.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Maybe they are gearing up for a 100 year blowout in 2019!