Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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John Lennon: Imagine.....

by confusedandalone in

there's no heaven...... it's easy if you try.... i am not a huge fan of the beatles, not a fan of john lennon really either.

however, this song is one that i think most people tend to like for its airy feel and sentiment.

the funniest thing to me is how the opening 9 words of this song really really really make one think about belief.. honestly for one second trying to imagine there is no heaven, it is easy if you try.

dropoffyourkeylee

The following quotation is from a 1953 Watchtower. I posted it a while back and the consensus was that it was not the real Lennon, but still I think it's hilarious.

Ten-year-old John Lennon was called to the witness stand [in Middlesbrough, England] to give evidence in an auto case. When the boy placed his hand on the Bible to take an oath that he would testify only the truth, the judge asked him if he knew what book he was swearing on. “No,” John answered. “Have you ever heard of the Bible?” “No.” “Have you ever heard of God?” “No.” The judge heard the evidence without the oath.—U. P. report in Chicago Sun-Times, May 23.

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Questions on Gilead and the revised NWT

by L3G in

first, thanks to zound for posting the link re: the 135th gilead graduation.

watching it got me thinking.... .

some years back (2007-2009?

dropoffyourkeylee

Interesting subject.

Since the Gilead School has been changed (ie no longer trains missionaries) maybe it is not a surprise that some of the instructors were reassigned And we are reading too much into it.

Concerning the new NWT, so far I haven't seen any evidence of Greek or Hebrew scholarship. I could duplicate everything they have done with standard reference books like Strong's and a Lexicon, coupled with a dozen or so other recent translations like the NASB.

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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.

i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).

dropoffyourkeylee

To clarify the OP, I was not informed if the 'missionary' Witnesses in Morocco are told to witness only to Christians, or if they preach to Muslims too. I don't believe they do a western style door-to-door ministry there. In any case it is a dangerous situation to be in.

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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.

i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).

dropoffyourkeylee

My issue with this has more to do with safety. The couple referred to in the OP are in their 20's who travelled to Morocco on their own money as American citizens (they are from NY state). They are not officially missionaries (I did not learn if they are Couples School grads) but they went at the arrangement of the branch, who advised them to live under false names. I understand that open preaching to Muslims is outlawed and severely punished. So what happens if things go sour? Would the away WT back them up to get them home safe? I doubt it. And would the American embassy help after finding out they were living under false names? it's outrageous that the WT would put these young folks at such risk, all for the sake of their pitiful excuse of a message.

There I've had my rant... I'm done now.

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Some JWs overseas use a false name to evade the authorities. Is this a common practice?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then i realized i had messed up the title, so here goes again;.

i have learned from a credible source that jws from the us have recently gone to morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (i'm not sure which branch it would be, but i would guess france).

dropoffyourkeylee

I had posted this a few days ago and got no response, then I realized I had messed up the title, so here goes again;

I have learned from a credible source that JWs from the US have recently gone to Morocco to witness, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names. This is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (I'm not sure which branch it would be, but I would guess France). I'm thinking, isn't that illegal? How can they get away with that? What would the American embassy say about that? if this is true I am simply shocked.

Has anyone else heard of Witnesses using false names and pretexts to evade the authorities in countries like Morocco?

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Use Of Electronic Tablets At Meetings

by Brother Mike in

i do.. what does the soceity actually say about them?

(i know some the members of the gb use them) .

what do you think about using them at meetings?

dropoffyourkeylee

Last month the Circuit overseer was in our area (midwest US) and after he left they made it clear that tablets were not to be used by any of the TMS speakers, or from the platform, unless it were a demonstration on the service meeting. The reason given was that since they are relatively expensive, some might feel pressured to buy one and feel bad if they didn't have one.

But that was before the new Bible and new App release, and I didn't hear the letter this week.

Admittedly, trying to find a Bible verse with the app is a little cumbersome compared to the usual way.

Need-treaters in Morocco live there under pseudonyms... are you serious?

by dropoffyourkeylee in

i have learned from a credible source that jws have recently gone to a morocco, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names.

this is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (which branch i was not told).

i'm thinking, isn't that illegal?

dropoffyourkeylee

I have learned from a credible source that JWs have recently gone to a Morocco, where the work is under ban, and while living there have lived under assumed names. This is (according to my source) under the direction of the branch (which branch I was not told). I'm thinking, isn't that illegal? How can they get away with that? What would the American embassy say about that? if this is true I am simply shocked.

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That; Which; Who

by compound complex in

using that, which and who to introduce clauses and when to use commas:.

the little boy who lives next door is a noisy, hell-raising brat.

"who lives next store" describes one little boy in particular, not the entire neighborhood of nice and respectful children; therefore, that clause is not set off by commas.

dropoffyourkeylee

I am glad the new NWT has corrected the numerous who/that grammatical errors like at John 5:30 "the will of him that sent me".

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Donating to charities discouraged by the WT

by lambsbottom in

hi everyone,.

im trying to find articles from the wt and awake that show when the writers are discouraging charity work or giving.

from any books would be good also..

dropoffyourkeylee

There is a general sentiment among Witnesses to NOT donate money or time to charities.

They would prefer any donations go to WT or the local congregation

And time be spent in the field service.

I give many hours each month to community and zero in FS.

It's great.

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Foreign language field - the curious Watchtower cutback?

by slimboyfat in

most of the recent watchtower cutbacks can be explained as money saving exercises: closing branches, paperback books, fewer pages in the magazines, sending bethelites home and so on.. but a few different posters have reported that the watchtower society are also cutting back on the foreign field ministry.

for many years foreign language congregations have been a major source of growth for the watchtower in many lands.

so why would they choose to scale it down?.

dropoffyourkeylee

My daughter is in a foreign language congregation in a US New England state, and they seem to be going strong with no cutbacks, at least nothing I have heard about.