looking back and seeing all the secrecy and cover ups throughout wt history such as the secret elders books, the branch correspondence guidelines, the shameful lying and deceipt exposed during the arc questioning, the in-house way of dealing with things, the lack of openness to the media on issues such as blood or child abuse or anything controversial for that matter.
could this relate in some way to russell's alleged past as a freemason?
it seems quite strange that the founder of the bible students quite possibly may have been a freemason, (an organisation well known for its secrecy).
I doubt there was much secrecy. Everyone knew what was going on. Unfortunately the method of communication was rumor. But that was the point, really. The illusion of secrecy added to the value of rumors. If you heard a rumor, you considered yourself a special person. Your value increased by repeating the rumor.
Thus, everyone was a winner.
i am curious if my observations are correct.
i noticed alot of exjws end up majoring in the social sciences.
i am also interested in what educational choices people have made either while fading or while completely out.
After my life as a witness I focused my life on accounting. I remember studying for my CPA exam and realized that generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) were far more comforting than anything I ever heard from the platform at a Kingdom hall. I am probably the first person in the history of humanity that considers accounting concepts at the par of any divine pronouncements from organized religion. Thus, I ended up as an accounting professor.
i've learned that many years ago, there was a man named brother chitty of some prominence in the jehovah's witnesses organization.
it fact, chitty was a member of the governing body.
chitty was asked to resign his position after serving for many years and nothing much was ever said about it to jehovahs witnesses.
loaded gun under her car seat was picked up off the floor and the kid shot her in the back...the day before on facebook she boasted about his shooting skills.
what is wrong with this picture?
dangit.......like i gotta cook for this hot chick tonight, ........i rented a suite at the mayaguez beach hotel, and she's totally into me.
i have my jeep....im still sore from my wreck....but dangit...im into this girl and i need y'alls help.
im californian....kinda been in the tropic forrest..bout 2years....and need some southern help.
i think this is by far the best way to reach jws and wake them up.
to go to a kh where nobody knows you and seem interested but raise questions either before or after the meeting.
if it only helps one person, it's worth it.. some may say it's sneaky etc... but no way can you talk to a brother on the ministry in a negative way.
I am not sure I understand the interest (some would say obsession) in converting JWs or anyone else. I understand if it is a family member. But, randomly picking on people to convince that they have been lied to is not a something I want to be a part of.
Convincing people they have lived a lie is one thing. But helping these people develop a meaningful life after the devastation that is sure to come if your plan works is something I have neither interest nor time. My attitude may be inappropriate, but I know how hard I and others worked after learning TTATT, I am not sure everyone has the fortitude to make a life after living in a cult. Always remember, there is a reason why some choose to be a part of a cult.
if you are a new person to the board you might want to send scully a pm thanking her for her hard work and dedication.
the boe project owes her for helping it to get started.. example:.
several years ago there was a website called (dirtclod.com) who had the courage to display the boes right out in front of everybody.
There are a number of individuals that deserve our tribute. Scully is on that list.
Thank you for your hard work, Scully!
here's a catchy song directed to jws to put in their monthly time sheet.
the comments state that it is a current congregation secretary at the start of the video????.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2rskxqoyrc.
i have renewed respect and admiration for john denver after watching/listening to this video.some of it reminds me of words by another john, john lennon.i really regret that my jw upbringing made me dislike john denver after some things he had said about jw's in his earlier career.
i would have loved to have heard this talk back in 1980 when it was first recorded.it hits home on so many levels of what we discuss on this very forum.
everything from evolution to spirituality,humanity to religion, the ineptitude of modern politics to solve mankind's problems.the things which we allow to divide us as humans but more importantly the things which we all should allow to unite us.it is 2 hours in length but i didn't regret the time spent watching it because it was one of those things that show that he had very similar ideas,philosophies,and feelings that have been expressed on here.after what many of us have been through on our journey and trying to escape a religion that we found we were trapped/bound to in some form or another,something tells me he'd felt right at home being with us.this recording is almost 36 years old so the sound and picture quality might not be what we're accustomed to today but is so worth the watching of it.
this took quite a while this evening.
so worth it though.
hope you enjoy!
