NewYork44M
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Bethel Status Update - Insider Information
by thedepressedsoul ini have some updates and new information on the downsizing in bethel.
25% of all bethelites around the world will be sent home.
in the us over 1,000 will be sent home.
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NewYork44M
A 25% RIF is significant. Makes you wonder why they even need all the construction. They could run their business out of someone's basement. -
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TTATT is a process, and it’s going to take time. There are no Short-Cuts.
by John Aquila ini talked to a close friend that served with me as an elder for a few years.
he allowed me about an hour to explain why 607 is not the correct date for the destruction of ancient jerusalem.
i showed him all the scriptures needed and i showed him the wt magazines that proved it.
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NewYork44M
Convincing someone that they have lived a lie is important - but that just gets you to the starting point to the rest of your life. My advice is - don't do it unless you are willing to accept the rest of your responsibility.
Understanding TTATT is just the beginning of a very complicated and HARD process to create meaning to your life. This is why I am reluctant to preach TTATT. Understanding TTATT is easy, the rest is really - really hard. I don't want to be responsible for what happens next. I have my own stinkin' problems. This may be (and is) a very selfish perspective. But I don't want to be responsible for what happens after they learn TTATT.
Those well meaning people who were so happy to convince me TTATT disappeared immediately after they accomplished their goal. I really don't have warm and fuzzy feelings for these opportunists.
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NewYork44M
Just remember, even if they are truly happy they are still following a lie. In the end they will have a wasted life. -
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god bless. As long as their happiness does not infringe on my happiness. -
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Candace Conti
by Pubsinger inso we know that wt settled out of court for an undisclosed sum and that presumably there was a 'gagging order' attached to the settlement.. not having really thought about what a 'confidentiality clause' meant before, i assumed in the past that it meant that you weren't allowed to disclose the amount of the settlement or any details about it.
but from the total and absolute silence once the settlement was made, i can only assume that it is a total gagging order.. how can the courts allow such a restriction to be put on a victim?
protecting the abusers and allowing the institution to cover up the lengths they go to to avoid admitting their guilt?
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NewYork44M
The win from the perspective of victims is the cumulative incremental wins that take place over a wide range of battles. The CC case was a very big battle, the WT lost on so many levels. This in combination with the RC hearings were the most recent major losses for the WT. I am sure this played into their downsizing strategy.
The war is not over, but there is no question that Watchtower is in retreat mode.
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The right to shun - wrong?
by Simon inmany people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.
it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.
of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.
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NewYork44M
If they were a tax paying organization they should have a wide range of options in terms of what they teach - or don't.
Once an organization is sanctioned as a tax-free entity they must abide by specified social norms. As a tax payer, I have no interested in subsidizing bad behavior.
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Meeting changes - just sad, pathetic
by sir82 inok, so let's say you're on the gb.
for years, you've been getting hundreds of reports from your hired ss agents, er, cos, about poor midweek meeting attendance, people not showing up for talks, crappy teaching from elders, etc.. so, you make the determination - ok!
here's a couple of choices:.
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NewYork44M
Has there been an official justification for getting rid of the TMS? Isn't this where skills are developed? I always thought this was an important meeting. Have they just abandoned teaching new speakers? Or is this irrelevant in the electronic age? -
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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NewYork44M
I am sorry to hear, on so many levels.
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NewYork44M
I watched the first few minutes - which are a few minutes that I will never get back. -
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Our CLAM meeting (vid): SELF-NEGATION is the first "treasure" from first meeting segment
by Gilgamesh inin the first sample video of the clam meeting (christian life and ministry) at about 5 minutes, 50 seconds in, a brother (steven phillips) is assigned the first segment of the new meeting, "treasures from god's word.
" ( http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwbrd_201510_5_video ).
he shows just how sloppy the wts still is at trying to explain the deeper meanings of scriptures.
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NewYork44M
Well, that is just plain goofy. Stephen Phillips needs to get a life.