As far as the topic at hand, if a JW were to join the YMCA 'just to use the swimming pool,' not because he really agreed with the aims and principles of the YMCA, do you think it would really matter what kind of membership he bought? Or would the mere fact of his taking any sort of membership be enough to get him into a JC meeting?
NeonMadman
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How many former Jehovah's Witnesses bury their head in the sand when it comes to reasoning about the NGO "conspiracy"?
by Change Name inhi all - sure sure, you can call me a troll or brainwashed cult member.
i am totally interested in how your answers to these questions.. .
do you find yourself ignoring anything that jehovah's witnesses bring out in regards to their former status as an ngo?.
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How many former Jehovah's Witnesses bury their head in the sand when it comes to reasoning about the NGO "conspiracy"?
by Change Name inhi all - sure sure, you can call me a troll or brainwashed cult member.
i am totally interested in how your answers to these questions.. .
do you find yourself ignoring anything that jehovah's witnesses bring out in regards to their former status as an ngo?.
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NeonMadman
The OP was cut and pasted from http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/knowyourngos.html. Just sayin'. Typical JW lack of ability to generate an original thought.
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Snarky Question
by earthfire inso i have a question that's been bothering me for years.
i know this is extreme but i think you'll see where i'm going with this.
so ex-jw's are evil we're on "satan's side" as my dad told me and we aren't worth a hello.
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NeonMadman
So, wait...you're complaining that the organization isn't restrictive enough?
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Girl scout cookies are demonized
by Gojira_101 inokay so i think it might be the concussion making me go on this rant...not too sure.. the girl scouts started selling their cookies yesterday and for the first time in my life i will be ordering cookies.....i mean wtf is so wrong with ordering cookies from them?
i love the thin mint's and guess what?
you can only buy them from girl scouts!!!!!!.
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NeonMadman
Actually, the position is that boy and girl scouts are paramilitary organizations, and that supporting them would be a violation of neutrality. You need to go back to the Golden Age of May 22, 1935 to read the details, but there has never been a revision of the teaching. As you note, most JWs follow the rule but have no idea why.
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What new light are they rolling out at the next convention?
by garyneal ini think i heard that the wt recently announced that the fds is really the gb alone.
is this suppose to be brought out at the convention?.
any other new light coming out that anyone is aware of?
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NeonMadman
I've seen speculation in at least one pro-JW source that there might be a new revision of the NWT coming this year; apparently the NWT has gone out of print in some branches.
Also, the discontinuation of the Trinity brochure might lead one to believe that a replacement is coming soon. It really is out of print, as I visited Wallkill Bethel recently and picked up copies off the 'discontinued items' shelves.
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My attempt at correcting a heavily biased Wiki article
by cedars inshe was prevented from going to the authorities?
details of the policy have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications and press releases issued by their office of public information.
if there is evidence to suggest that the alleged perpetrator did abuse children, congregation duties are suspended.[8].
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NeonMadman
I dunno guys but IMHO Wikipedia begs to differ and seems much? more objective and fair in their point of view, just Google "jehovah's witnesses sexual abuse" and check out the first link to Wikipedia. Pretty clear there is no cover up and a lot done to protect kids.
The only thing that a JW considers "objective and fair" is if the organization is painted in glowing terms, with no negative information whatsoever.
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My attempt at correcting a heavily biased Wiki article
by cedars inshe was prevented from going to the authorities?
details of the policy have been published in jehovah's witnesses' publications and press releases issued by their office of public information.
if there is evidence to suggest that the alleged perpetrator did abuse children, congregation duties are suspended.[8].
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NeonMadman
If an accused individual denies wrongdoing, but later due to evidence presented in a court of law, it is proven that he or she was involved in child abuse, the individual is disfellowshipped.
Is this true? Conviction in a court of law means automatic disfellowshipping?
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How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?
by Julia Orwell ini'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
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NeonMadman
I graduated high school in 1969, and of course, Armageddon was coming by 1975. Now I'm 61, and while I've always done OK, I've never had a really satisfying job or an especially well-paying job as I could have had if I had gone to college. My wife, who was never a JW and went to college after high school, has always made more than I do.
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Sabbath, why the change in the sacredness of the Sabbath?
by jam inyou may recall a poor fellow was put to death for.
gathering sticks on the sabbath.
numbers 15:32 the lord.
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NeonMadman
Just ran across this on one of the blogs I follow:
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Why do Jw's have to pay for CO's expenses?
by nolongerconfused inthis is something that has always bothered me!.
why do rank and file have to pay for co's do's expenses, car, health insurance, meals, etc, etc...?.
didn't the apostle paul say that all christians have to be self sufficient and work?, not depending on anyone else and cause a burden?.
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NeonMadman
As Blondie noted, Paul was presenting himself as an exception to the rule that those who minister to the churches should be paid for their work. 1 Corinthians 9:4-16 says this:
"Those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel." The WTS takes Paul's exception and makes it the rule, that all who preach should do so at their own expense. That is not the Bible's teaching. The congregation that receives the benefit of a teacher's efforts should pay for his expenses, and, more, should pay his support. The Watchtower's railing against having a "paid clergy class" is completely contrary to Scripture. Clergy should be paid. This is not to say that clergy should be regarded as an exalted class with more status than regular Christians, only that those who actually do the work of preaching and teaching the Scriptures should be able to do so as a profession, not as a volunteer.1Co 9:4 Do we not have the right to eat and drink?
1Co 9:5 Do we not have the right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?
1Co 9:6 Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working for a living?
1Co 9:7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk?
1Co 9:8 Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same?
1Co 9:9 For it is written in the Law of Moses, "You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain." Is it for oxen that God is concerned?
1Co 9:10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the plowman should plow in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop.
1Co 9:11 If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?
1Co 9:12 If others share this rightful claim on you, do not we even more? Nevertheless, we have not made use of this right, but we endure anything rather than put an obstacle in the way of the gospel of Christ.
1Co 9:13 Do you not know that those who are employed in the temple service get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in the sacrificial offerings?
1Co 9:14 In the same way, the Lord commanded that those who proclaim the gospel should get their living by the gospel.
1Co 9:15 But I have made no use of any of these rights, nor am I writing these things to secure any such provision. For I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of my ground for boasting.
1Co 9:16 For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!