Posts by N.drew

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Law suits

by flying under the radar in

jw
friends

just wondering wether anyone has tried to sue the wbts for emotional suffering,.

loss of income or anything else... and would such a law suit hold up in court?.

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N.drew

I am not for sueing but I disagree with your comment BOTR "to leave it is physically possible" because

even though being there might bore someone to death, leaving it is what hurts.

It hurts for the same reason leaving synagogue did in Jesus day; loss of family and loss of some

business. If a witness is dependent on his friends for income, he will lose it. They will say

"Jehovah provides" but I think that would not hold up in court.

They use 1 Crinthians 15:33 as their good excuse to shun, but it can easily be discredited.

Look at a thousand posts of them who are loyal to the Governing Body, where ever they say

"God's will", "Society" can be substituted. To have been baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses

means faith in God. They turned it into faith in man, which is a detestable thing. But a Bible Student

knows Ecclesiastes 5:6 http://biblos.com/ecclesiastes/5-6.htm So their membership in the organization

becomes a type of slavery of conscience and heart. The reason why it is so is because both the "leaders"

and the followers let it happen. But not all. So if she who's conscience believes this; 2 Timothy 3:5

http://biblos.com/2_timothy/3-5.htm and she loses her grandchildren because obeying what the

Bible says is important to her conscience, how is that not kid-napping?

Because it is not the mother and father that the child was taken from, that's all.

I believe it takes a "village" to raise a child, now the village has become the world.

The detestable thing is grieving the Holy Spirit. It is bad for the whole world.

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i have done my bible research, i am not half done, but i have enough for now.1 corinthians 15:33 the word rendered "associations" is homilia, meaning company association intercourse companionship conversation.the word, according to my bible source, is not repeated anywhere.

so i looked up company first.

this is what i found.. 1 corinthians 5:9 "i wrote you in an epistle not to company (sunanamignusthai) w/ fornicators.

N.drew

I have done my Bible research, I am not half done, but i have enough for now.1 Corinthians 15:33 The word rendered "associations" is homilia, meaning company association intercourse companionship conversation.The word, according to my Bible source, is not repeated anywhere. So I looked up company first. This is what I found.

1 Corinthians 5:9 "I wrote you in an epistle not to company (sunanamignusthai) w/ fornicators. 2 Thess 3:14 he that does not obey this instruction of us by this letter take special note lest to associate (sunanamignusthai) with self in order that he may be ashamed. 1 Corinthians 5:11 I wrote you not to associate (sunanamignusthai) if any brother is called a fornicator or .... Acts 10:28 You know it is unlawful for a Jewish man to fratinize (glue, unite) (kollasthai) or to visit with (approach consent). Romans 15:32 with joy I may come to you by the will of god (theou) to be rested with you (sunanamiginusthai). http://biblos.com/romans/15-32.htm

My point being if "bad associations" really does mean rubbing shoulders with they who are not Jehovah's Witnesses, why homilia and not sunanamiginusthai which would apply much better? And if, as they believe, doing so will spoil thier relationship with God, why is it not clear to the reader what it means?

There are other words "association" is redered. mesos, enopios, sunalizo but not homilia. I haven't even yet cracked it, but see? Or do none see?

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

Greetings Terry! Yes I also believe it is a tipping of the scale.

Daniel 5:27 Babylon was found "deficient".

[this is an aside; I would have someone else wonder if in these days

(the days of those kings) some company of men are doing as Babylon

was doing Daniel 5:3,4]

Consider that men are they who bring the end.

Bible says Jehovah does bring the end Genesis 6:5-7 but I believe it

says so because he allows it.

Think of the wood. Lots of wood went into the ark. What brought the rain?

Was it too much wood burning? I think so. It means, I think, worshipping

on every high hill, they were burning too much wood for vanity.

Dear Daringheart, did you do your own personal Bible study?

or is your conclusion based on man's interpretation of Bible?

I do not like the man's interpretation of it either.

So I believe "the end" is brought about by man's activity.

I fear it will not be wonderfully controlled as they would wish.

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

Watchtower has disappointed me a hundred different ways. They twist scripture

which is my favorite thing in the world. So I don't like them. Even if it was true,

that I must side with them for my everlasting life, I would not. I got kicked out

of Bible Discussion because of them self righteous two faced brats who are

whatever they are because I told the truth. I wouldn't be happy to live 2 weeks with

the "survivors" if that was so. I'm going to die. But like God's faithful men and

women (real ones) I will die satisfied with days. In Jesus Christ's name. Is that trolling

if they are not here? And if they really are two faced brats, is it still trolling?

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

Thanks for the warning! By the by, they are shunning me,

I am not shunning them. I try to make it a habit not to shun,

although I like the sound of it, sort of British "shun".

I figured them out a long time ago. I read the book by Franz.

AFTER I left. I went in for Bible study and came out for Bible study.

That is what I do. Do you?

Your words match your picture,

you are a joker. Doesn't everybody like Charley Brown?

I am not here to be liked. Can you tell? So Charley "thetrueone" what do you

think about that threat? ( I think they are funny.)

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

In case you might be talking about the "sign" of Matthew24:3. It does not occur again.

Jesus was alive. His disciples recognized the importance of him and themselves

and what they would do. But they knew the world did not recognize Jesus.

They also knew he was the savior of the world, so they asked him what will be

the sign that the world will know that he is and when what they were given to do

would consummate. The sign is it not his death? I believe it. Did not the warning

"look out that you are not misled" mean there is no guarantee that we also will

accomplish the kingdom come? Jesus accomplished his part. He is helping us

accomplish our part, but we must not be misled. "Do not fear little flock

Jehovah is well pleased to give you the kingdom" http://biblos.com/luke/12-32.htm

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

Sorry! That was a rhetorical question. I like math because

it is like listening to a foreign language.

Some proof perhaps that a creator exists-some people get

math some other people don't know math at all.

How the discrepancy? We are not the same, but so different

for making life interesting? Who would DO that? A particle of matter?

How would it KNOW?

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Testing, testing, testing.....Jehovah TESTS?

by Terry in

a classroom teacher has to administer tests.

the teacher doesn't know who is learning and who isn't or how much.. a test pilot flys a new jet to determine what strengths and weaknesses correspond to the design because nobody knows how close.

the manufacture of it came to the ideal.. fire drills are a test: can everybody exit in an orderly fashion in a reasonable amount of time in case there is a fire.. if you think you may be pregant you take a pregnancy test because you won't know for sure otherwise (unless you wait 9 months!).

N.drew

I'll be damned! I understand either or, then not much. Math is sexy,

do you do math on purpose? Is math linear? I don't believe truth is linear.

So, is Arma getin out of here coming soon? I think it broke up into pieces,

so part of it is here and part of it was there and part of it is coming later

than sooner. Did I get it right?

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Isaiah 33:24

by N.drew in

does no one else think that scripture "no resident will say i am sick".

refers to jehovah?

no resident will say "jehovah is sick".

N.drew

Thank you Quarterback for answering!

Are they aware they are shunning me?

They who complain about shunning sure know how to do it.

It is a disconsolate unwelcome that I am feeling, so sorry to say,

but you should know I think so because I am pretty sure there

are others who feel the same way, but are not as bold as I am.

Bold, I suppose, is my middle name. I am not sorry.

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Isaiah 33:24

by N.drew in

does no one else think that scripture "no resident will say i am sick".

refers to jehovah?

no resident will say "jehovah is sick".

N.drew

It is probalby likely not Isaiah because it is saying in context

the people remaining will be forgiven guilt. Isaiah can't do that

and Jesus was not born yet.

The point being it is most likely NOT what The Watchtower

says it is. The previous verse says "the lame will take the plunder".

Twisted. Watchtower says it is the healing of mankind.

I say it is the wisdom of mankind. By the way "not real" is the same as

to be weak or sick. Not interested, heartless is too.