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  Iq Do Not Measure Natural Intelligentia (larc)

  by mystikool in

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  here is article from net---.

  recognizing that the binet test had its limitations, both binet and stern doubted iq scoring actually represented a fixed inborn quantity of intelligence.

  as stern wrote in 1914: "no series of tests, however skillfully selected it may be, does reach the innate intellectual endowment, stripped of all complications, but rather this endowment in conjunction with all influences to which the examinee has been subjected up to the moment of testing.".

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  Here is article from net---

  Recognizing that the Binet test had its limitations, both Binet and Stern doubted IQ scoring actually represented a fixed inborn quantity of intelligence. As Stern wrote in 1914: "No series of tests, however skillfully selected it may be, does reach the innate intellectual endowment, stripped of all complications, but rather this endowment in conjunction with all influences to which the examinee has been subjected up to the moment of testing."

  Despite reservations of these two pioneers, the Binet test was enthusiastically accepted in America. In 1916, a Binet test was administered to a prisoner on trial for murder. Because the prisoner fared so poorly on the test, the Wyoming jury acquitted him by reason of his mental condition.

  http://www.ivillagehealth.com/quiz/iqtest/pages/0,12910,261445_296826,00.html
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  What Counts As Knowledge

  by HildaBingen in

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  engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.

  besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?

  what is knowledge?

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  :Also Hilda,
  Explain why the watchtower teaches Christ came invisibly, but Matthew 24:27 says "For as lightning that comes from the east IS VISIBLE even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." (caps mine):

  The answer easy. do you know differance between parousia and erchomai? if you do--then you have answer to question you ask in this place.
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  What Counts As Knowledge

  by HildaBingen in

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  engrish has thrown down the gauntlet by insulting my people about iq.

  besides fact that iq bogus, engrish overlook nother fact.. what is intelligence?

  what is knowledge?

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  :I still disagree. After being a JW, I had the chance to speak with priests from different churches about why they believe as they do. Just as JWs will show you how "false" religions supposedly twist scriptures, these priests made perfect sense of their doctrines and why they believe them. I didn't have a rebuttle to what they were showing me.:

  Just because you had no buttal not mean priest could make sense of belief. No priest make sense of trinity.
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  Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

  by Englishman in

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  i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

  i think that they would rate less than most.

  i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

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  :What an idiot you are flashing terms about IQ tests. You said that Stanford and Binet had something to do with it. Well, you dumb ass, Binet developed the test in France in the early 1900's, but Stanford had nothing to do with it. The reason is that Stanford was not a person. It was a college.:

  You need reading comprehension test. When did Hilda say Stanford was person? Who is the dipstick in this place?

  :It was Stanford University, where Binet's test was translated into English, hence the name, The Stanford Binet Intelligence Test. It was the best test in its day, but there are several tests today that are as good or better, including the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale, and the Wonderlic Personnel Test.:

  You arrogant academic all same. You think because you phd, you something. You nothing. Hilda run circles round you anyday in academic competition. You probably only know stats. iq is bunch junk.

  :These tests have a test-retest reliability and a construct reliability above .95. By the way, the square root of construct validity is equal to the test-retest reliability.:

  Who care? math is great in some way. but it not end-all be-all.

  :So don't run shit on this board about shit you don't understand and never will, dipshit.:

  Apply your own advice to self. You talk much about things you no understand. Like God. You say thing bout him and his people. you no understand.
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  Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

  by Englishman in

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  i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

  i think that they would rate less than most.

  i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

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  :I think you misunderstood English, he did not say secular IQ is more important than spiritual IQ. He questioned two things 1) If JW ability to reason (or use their brain) atrophies because their thinking is done for them or 2) If people with low IQ's are drawn to JW's. I think English brings up a couple of good points.:

  Engrish wrong. He not psychotherapist. And he did not have say secular iq. what other kind could he talk about?
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  Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

  by Englishman in

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  i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

  i think that they would rate less than most.

  i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

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  :Yes, I bow to her genius. What would we do without her? Anyway, instead of replying to this thread she has started a thread all on her own with her reply to E'man, so maybe you'd like to join that one while the rest of us get on with this thread!:

  We will join that thread. but we must speak the trufe on this one too.

  :That is the least intelligent thing I have heard so far... Many people on this board are Spriritual, not controlled by an Organizatiion that tells them what to believe. Yes, many of us have gone on to get a secondary education, and appreciate it. That doesn't make us less appreciative of a higher power, or a divine education. I would venture to say that most people on this board consider education, the main reason they are here.:

  We not controlled by org either. we like hans kung. He is kool. we also say that society do not put down education now and we do not. But we say that people like Engrish think worldly iq more important then spiritual iq. he wrong.
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  Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

  by Englishman in

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  i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

  i think that they would rate less than most.

  i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

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  M:ystiwhatever can't speak english, but can criticise those who can.:

  You tootin.

  :Intelligent people are generally inquisitive, studious, thoughtful and sceptical - qualitities sadly lacking in most JW's.:

  You just describe me. And I jw. So you wrong.

  :That's what really annoys me about them - they sit there listening to all that crap and never ever question it - I never heard one answer in any Watchtower study, book study or any other study where someone put their hand up and said they didn't agree with what was said.:

  we have heard it. but they did it humbly--not superciliously.

  :As far as I can see JWs are generally stoopid, this cannot be denied -but the exact same people, i.e. ex-JWs, after the cloud has gone away, seem to be far more intelligent than most, or rather, more appreciative of education, and this forum bears this out very clearly.:

  what do it mean to be stoopid? you tell me, friend. i think you wrong. hilda one of smartest people i know and she a jw. we think ex-jw not too bright. they may appreciate worldly education. they deny the divine kind at the same time. the divine education is best!
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  Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

  by Englishman in

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  i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

  i think that they would rate less than most.

  i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

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  We cannot believe it. English get on here talk about jw have low iq. we jw will run circles round his English bum. What he say is pure garbage'.

  Anyone know that iq is a hegemonic tool of the neocolonial patriarchal anti-black establishment. It invented to keep people who have color down. Iq is figment of people imagination. Binet and Stanford did not know what kind box they open when doing iq. We not trust iq scores. The best education in ak and wt and bible. Read dem und see.
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  Hilda & Mystic, Mission Statement Please

  by Guest 77 in

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  hilda and mystic, would kindly explain your 'mission statement' on this forum?

  please avoid diarrhea of words.

  guest 77

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  We have no mission statement since we are not a business. If you want to know our mission, read the sages of old. In a word, their mission was to speak the truff.

  Look at Matthew 28:18-20. You will find our mission there.

  Third is stop all from patting bowen on back.
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  ex-jws and cognitive dissonance

  by HildaBingen in

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  mystikool told me i should endure.

  he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought.

  so i no longer offended.

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  :If xJWs suffer from that, I guess JWs like you are suffering them as well because an xJW was a JW at first so where do these cognitive dissonance and malfunctioning defense mechanisms come from?:

  You need to take course in psychology. it might help you discern what we are saying. Just because you suffer from cd or are neurotic, it does not mean that it is someone else fault. Where is the locus of control? Is it in you or out you? You be the judge.

  :Also, if an xJW was DF'ed for suffering from what you said, it clearly shows that the JWs are doing a shitty job at helping and an even shittier job at demostrating Christian love.:

  everyone free moral agents. dont blame others for your own problems. You got fault logik. just cause johnny a criminal do not mean that he criminal cause of parents or society. locus of control within. I am what I think you think I am, yes, but my locus of control still interior.