Why do you have to "go" anywhere? That is a false dichotomy. Leave the WT. Remain a Christian. Be an individual with a conscience.
Posts by 00DAD
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A Letter to My Sons ... A Request for Help
by 00DAD init has now been over two years since i was df'd.
in that time i have had limited contact with my 17 year old son, the younger, and almost no contact with my 20 year old.
the older boy was baptized 5 years ago and sadly the younger just recently took the plunge into the "pool-aid".
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Census / online survey idea - thoughts please...
by cedars ini've been thinking about the recent developments in the uk following the "apostates = mentally diseased" article in the july 15th edition of the watchtower.
to provide a bit more background, a forum member named amelia has recently had a meeting with uk police officers who subsequently took a copy of the article for their records.
they agreed that the content could potentially incite people to hatred against disaffected witnesses, and the copy is now on file with the uk police in case there are any future incidents of hateful acts against "apostates", including violence or even stalking.. i am working on a press release to make the public more aware of the idealogical oppression being meted out by the society on those who oppose them, both inside and outside the organization.
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00DAD
No, I'm a music teacher. I can write a song!
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A Letter to My Sons ... A Request for Help
by 00DAD init has now been over two years since i was df'd.
in that time i have had limited contact with my 17 year old son, the younger, and almost no contact with my 20 year old.
the older boy was baptized 5 years ago and sadly the younger just recently took the plunge into the "pool-aid".
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00DAD
Thanks to all who have commented so far. Already I've gotten some really good ideas from just these few posts!!!!
- DVDs & Pictures
- Postcards
- Emails
- Scriptures
I wanted to let you and any future posters know that I have tried over the past two years and continue to try to have has much communication as possible with both my boys. I regularly send the younger one emails and text messages. (And recently I was even able to confirmed that he actually reads at least some of them even if he doesn't respond.) My older son has blocked my cell phone so I can't call or text, but I do send them both postcards and other items from time to time.
Keep the ideas coming, I really appreciate it!
Thanks,
Daniel
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"Mentally Diseased" are confirmed as offensive words of hate crime. Help needed, please.
by Amelia Ashton inmy youngest is studying law.
browsing through one of her books i came across a chapter freedom of association.
it covers the well known categories, colour, race, religion, sexuality etc.
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00DAD
BTW, wouldn't one actually have to be a licensed psychiatrist or something to diagnose someone as "mentally diseased"? And even then I'm guessing that's not a real medical term, but just a bunch of WT hate-hooey!
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"Mentally Diseased" are confirmed as offensive words of hate crime. Help needed, please.
by Amelia Ashton inmy youngest is studying law.
browsing through one of her books i came across a chapter freedom of association.
it covers the well known categories, colour, race, religion, sexuality etc.
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00DAD
The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution does not afford absolute freeness of speech. It does not, for example, protect an individual against slander, libel or inciting a riot or the overthrowing of the government.
From what little I've been able to glean, there is a fine balance between the protection afforded to an individual by the 1st Amendment with the protection that should be available to a victim by hateful speech.
It will be interesting to see how this shakes out.
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Census / online survey idea - thoughts please...
by cedars ini've been thinking about the recent developments in the uk following the "apostates = mentally diseased" article in the july 15th edition of the watchtower.
to provide a bit more background, a forum member named amelia has recently had a meeting with uk police officers who subsequently took a copy of the article for their records.
they agreed that the content could potentially incite people to hatred against disaffected witnesses, and the copy is now on file with the uk police in case there are any future incidents of hateful acts against "apostates", including violence or even stalking.. i am working on a press release to make the public more aware of the idealogical oppression being meted out by the society on those who oppose them, both inside and outside the organization.
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00DAD
How can I help? Count me in!
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Everyone has an opinion
by sizemik inin the modern world everybody wants to be "politcally correct".
but what they feel others want to hear.. in a way .
it's a kind of deception.. well .
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00DAD
Political Correctness has run amuck. Everything is OK except saying something isn't OK!
And who exactly is it that determines what is politically correct and what is not? The people in power!
Sounds like just another version of the WTBTS ... or in reality, the WTBTS is just another version of the old con-game.
Sorry I fell for it for 25 years. Glad I finally woke up and smelled the coffee.
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A Letter to My Sons ... A Request for Help
by 00DAD init has now been over two years since i was df'd.
in that time i have had limited contact with my 17 year old son, the younger, and almost no contact with my 20 year old.
the older boy was baptized 5 years ago and sadly the younger just recently took the plunge into the "pool-aid".
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00DAD
It has now been over two years since I was DF'd.
In that time I have had limited contact with my 17 year old son, the younger, and almost no contact with my 20 year old. The older boy was baptized 5 years ago and sadly the younger just recently took the plunge into the "pool-aid".
The reasons for my leaving the organization are varied, but of course it all started with doubts and disagreements with the GB's teachings and their assertions at being "God's organization. Numerous threads on this site have dealt exhaustively with that subject and I'm not intending to go down that path yet one more time.
The reason I am writing this post is this: While I am trying to remain optimistic at the possibility of reaching my sons, helping them to WAKE UP to the Real Truth about the WTBTS and eventually reuniting with them; I am also trying to be pragmatic concerning the reality of the situation. At this point, both of my boys are True Believers and have reacted to my leaving (as many do) by becoming über-Witnesses. Nevertheless, I have hope and faith that--even though they are confused that I would leave a religion that I taught them--they are smart enough and strong enough to eventually come around and follow my example. (Most of their family are JWs).
Although I am currently in excellent health at the relatively young age of 50, I recognize that "time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all." And so I am beginning to write a letter that would be delivered to them in the event of my untimely demise absent that much longed for reunification.
Aside from the obvious declarations of my on-going unconditional love for them, I do not want to leave this life without at least one last attempt at reaching their hearts and their minds, one final effort to help them break free of the un-loving and un-Christian cult of JWs.
For these reasons I would like to enlist the aid and assistance of all on this site who feel so inclined and would like to share any thoughts, advice, encouragement, experiences, commentary or even just your opinions about what to include or exclude from such a letter.
My ultimate goals of such a letter would be twofold: for my sons to know that I always loved them without reservation, and that I hope they find the courage within themselves to do what I did and break free from the control of the WTBTS.
Thank you,
Daniel
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Today's Watchtower Study is SO dumb!!!
by TimothyT ini would like to think of myself as an academic.
im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.
when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.
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00DAD
The "purpose" unfolds just like the Watchtower magazine: one confusing, contradicting, flip-flopping, heart-breaking, postponing page at a time.
But Trust Us, we're "God's Organization". How can you be sure? Because we're telling you! Trust us.
Wanna' buy a watch-tower?
Of course it's real. I GUARANTEE IT! Would I lie to you?
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Today's Watchtower Study is SO dumb!!!
by TimothyT ini would like to think of myself as an academic.
im starting my second degree and i enjoy research.
when i see a statement backed up by references and support from a credible source, sometimes i get excited.
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00DAD
Assert, assert, re-assert, then assert some more.
“A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” – Vladimir Lenin (1870 - 1924)
Or if you prefer: Lather, Rinse, Repeat