recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?
have i missed it?.
been looking, hoping!.
LostGeneration mused: "Hmmm..how do you REPRESENT someone you don't even talk to!"
You can't, they don't!
BTW, the recent WT you refer to is:
"We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones." - Question From Readers, w2011 8/15 p. 22
recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?
have i missed it?.
been looking, hoping!.
At the risk of stating the obvious, the "Official Teaching" is:
FDS: "all of the anointed ones living on earth at any given time constitute 'the faithful and discreet slave'"- w07 11/1 p. 30 par. 12
However, the REALITY is, as probably all of us know, completely different as the GB neither solicit or accept any sort of communication or input in any way, shape or form from any of the anointed regarding teaching, doctrine, planning, aka "spiritual feeding". Some of us have been discussing this aspect of the controversy in this thread:
The Faithful and Discreet Slave - A JW Myth
Nevertheless, the idea that there is a LEGAL DESCRIPTION of the FDS is very, very intriguing as is evidenced by our desire to hear "the identity of the FDS [revealed] in open court." This could be the only REAL REVELATION that has come out of the WTBTS ever!
islam more lenient on apostates than the wtbts!.
this morning i came across this thought provoking comment in a cnn news article:.
harris zafar, national spokesperson of the ahmadiyya muslim community usa, does not mince words on the subject, stating in a huffington post opinion piece that "islam prescribes absolutely no punishment for apostasy.".
I would like to try to REDIRECT this thread back in the direction I originally intended when I first opened it, encouraging comments on THIS thought:
"Imagine, just imagine, if the WTBTS prescribed "absolutely no punishment for apostasy"!
How different do you think things would be if that were true?
islam more lenient on apostates than the wtbts!.
this morning i came across this thought provoking comment in a cnn news article:.
harris zafar, national spokesperson of the ahmadiyya muslim community usa, does not mince words on the subject, stating in a huffington post opinion piece that "islam prescribes absolutely no punishment for apostasy.".
dgp, I have someone I want you to meet. Her name is Justitia Themis. dgp meet Justitia, Justitia meet dgp.
Matchmaker, matchmaker make me a match ...
islam more lenient on apostates than the wtbts!.
this morning i came across this thought provoking comment in a cnn news article:.
harris zafar, national spokesperson of the ahmadiyya muslim community usa, does not mince words on the subject, stating in a huffington post opinion piece that "islam prescribes absolutely no punishment for apostasy.".
dgp: wow, you're a real piece of work.
I NEVER said the " the Watchtower is worse than Islam ". You pal, are out of your mind.
I recommend this thread to you:
Go annoy someone else. We're done,
Peace
Daniel
islam more lenient on apostates than the wtbts!.
this morning i came across this thought provoking comment in a cnn news article:.
harris zafar, national spokesperson of the ahmadiyya muslim community usa, does not mince words on the subject, stating in a huffington post opinion piece that "islam prescribes absolutely no punishment for apostasy.".
dgp: First of all, it's 00DAD, not 00DAN.
Second of all, OMG, what is your reason for wanting to make this an argument when none exists?
You've misquoted, misrepresented and misunderstood just about everything I was going after in creating this thread. Every time I respond to you explaining that this is about JWs NOT Islam you give me a lesson in the worst examples of Islamic extremists applying sharia law. Dude, I get it. I got it before you ever posted. Perhaps it is because English is your second language you miss the subtlety of the sarcasm in my ironic style of posting. But it's a common thing in American editorializing. For that I can forgive you. But don't jump in when you don't understand and try and correct me when I'm not wrong.
I will however concede one point to you regarding my "use of the exclamation mark in the title". In fact, I already conceded that point five days ago on the 8th of October. If you'd closely followed this thread before you decided to "correct me" you would already know that I responded to JT regarding that point saying, "I suppose in retrospect, I should have ended the title with a question mark instead: Islam More Lenient on Apostates than the WTBTS? Please accept my humble apologies."
There is one thing I do agree with you, "Sometimes it's best to admit that one's point was wrong, and leave it at that. I suggest you do that."
Cheers,
00DAD
once people have come in, and the doorman and the mic men are in place, why are there a few other suits scattered about at the back?
i saw a guy get up, sit down, get up, sit down, get up and when i looked what he was up to he was reading the noticeboard and looking around, waiting for a bus.
i figured he wasn't doing much at that point, but anything to not stay seated.
They're takin' care of bidness!
recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?
have i missed it?.
been looking, hoping!.
Band - yes, I'm familiar with the general goings on and have been following the thread posted by the Andersons. My questions were just limited to that which I asked. You answered when you said, "WT entity mailed a letter to all elders in Australia telling them to comply with the law". If that was in the thread already I must have missed it. Thanks!
I am familiar with the legal protections that corporations offer for its executives and board members, however--and as you might be aware--there is a concept known as "piercing the corporate veil". But I haven't seen it addressed here.
For those that don't know, this is:
An action [which] ... normally arises in civil litigation when ... the plaintiff alleges that the corporation is actually a sham - that is, the corporation is not really a distinct individual, but is merely an extension or "alter ego" of its shareholders, being used to advance their private interests or to perpetrate a fraud. - Piercing the Corporate Veil, by Aaron Larson, Law Offices of Aaron Larson
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/business/corporate_veil.html
It is a way to hold responsible the appropriate individuals in the case of illegal and/or criminal activity. This no doubt works differently in different court systems/jurisdictions, but. I'd imagine/hope the principles apply
Daniel
recently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?
have i missed it?.
been looking, hoping!.
Band, would you mind explaining what you mean by "coordinating compliance"?
Also, who were you referring to when you wrote:
Yet writing to elders in such a manner, they tipped their hand as to their actual power vs. corporate presence on a piece of paper.
Who did the writing?
Who were the elders written to?
Thanks,
Daniel
islam more lenient on apostates than the wtbts!.
this morning i came across this thought provoking comment in a cnn news article:.
harris zafar, national spokesperson of the ahmadiyya muslim community usa, does not mince words on the subject, stating in a huffington post opinion piece that "islam prescribes absolutely no punishment for apostasy.".
dgp wrote,
00DAD,
You wrote that
Harris Zafar, national spokesperson ...
dgp, I most emphatically did NOT write that. Rather I quoted a CNN article in which Mr. Zafar said that! Please refer to my original post and READ THE WHOLE THING! I realize that English is your second language and understand the challenges that go along with that. My wife is Hungarian and trying to teach me that difficult language. Nevertheless, please don't make the mistake of attributing the opinions of others which are clearly quoted with my own opinion.
Yes, I know. There are a lot of bad, evil, vindictive people that are Islamic religious zealots. Thank you for "instructing" me in what I already know. That was the point of my post.
My post was/is about JWs, not Islam. The irony is that Islam, while not being homogenous, is generally thought of as being among the more extreme and punitive religions when it comes to issues of tolerance, conversion and apostasy. That was why the statement by Mr. Zafar was so striking. It shows the contrast of viewpoints among muslims, something NOT possible among JWs.
BTW, and as you speculated in your last post, I too am sure some of the more "True Believer" type JWs wish they could stone apostates to death. There are plenty of them that would make sharia look like a kinder, gentler form of worship.
Cheers,
Daniel
