oh btw if the points were not fully clear, the bible...or is it WT dogma? can't remember, but i know somewhere that it says in bold print: if you partake of the emblems and are not anointed, that you will die.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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cptkirk
The answer is clear then: (spaceballs voice over) just keep producing more anointed ! and from some of the time that i've spent in rural areas of the USA, and what i've seen that goes on in these rural areas.......between all the folks sleeping under bridges and ned the winos roaming around on memorial night (most of whom are partakers of the emblems) they should be good to go. (this is not a add hominem for those who do not know what is going on in rural america) this is really actually happening. i've even seen dubs in the middle of the memorial come so close to losing their tempers and ripping the plate out of the hands of these people, before they could "partake"....wonder what the GB has to say about that one.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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cptkirk
80 something hits and nobody knows? i will make one then, hmmm let's see.....what is a good end date......well, probably be good to make it around the time of a presidential election because the crazies REALLY love that kind of thing, i mean that gets them out in droves...hmmm let's see......hmm hmmmm also the IMF predicts that 2016 will be the year that CHINA surpasses the USA economically hmmm hmm hmmmm hmm let's see hmm mmmmm hmmmmmm hmmm ok let's see, 2016 for CHINA will be year of the monkey which is described as " Confident to a fault, the seldom give two hoots to the opinions of others."
ok this is perfect because the antichrist will be also not caring about shit what other people think. so there it is folks, 2016 is the new end.
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Do we have a new end of the world date?
by cptkirk inwhat is the jw stance currently?
that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything?
oh you speak bad things you judge.
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what is the jw stance currently? that we are just in the "end times" ,but we don't have any pyramid measurements or anything? oh you speak bad things you judge. we shouldn't judge the founders and their involvement with pyramidology, but we should be judging people for oral sex?? please explain that and i will be all ears. don't judge the founders who were being directly spoken to by the spirit but needed to use geomancy (which is i think bad right?), but judge some poor slob working at Denny's for having oral sex with his own wife, and send him off in the woods! maybe he will be stoned by the israelites out there for collecting sticks on the sabath. do not question this??? should my conscience bother me for asking questions like this? am i evil? is there even such a thing as good and evil? is a person who asks if there is such a thing as good an evil then incriminating themselves as evil? :!(
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I'm writing a DA letter...need advise
by nolongerconfused inhello, so i have decided to da myself and will write a da letter to the body of elders.... do you have any ideas of what i can include in this letter or samples?...
i really want to make a huge impact with this letter.. i appreciate your help everyone....
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cptkirk
there was a letter that i read (and i kept) when i first came to this web site, but i can't find it on the search engine. it was by a guy named "new castles", and the title of the thread was just "disassociation letter". if you can find it, read that. maybe someone can help with a link.
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Jehovah's (Witnesses) STUMBLERS
by Terry inif you have influenza you shouldn't be going door to door deliberately infecting others.. if you have a screwy false idea keep it to yourself don't teach it to your kids.. if you think you have the only true religion--but--your religion keeps changing their "truth" maybe you should get a clue!.
jesus warned about stumbling his "little ones.
" he used the word "woe".
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cptkirk
sounds like good advice; i wasn't in the military but many in my family were. I think that my point with that regard was more geared to the officer types, the ones that go to college to be in the military (ie. the frank burns) more than the soldiers themselves. i would imagine if you went into the military now as a soldier and had the whole old school gung-ho thing going they would probably put you in a straight jacket.
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Jehovah's (Witnesses) STUMBLERS
by Terry inif you have influenza you shouldn't be going door to door deliberately infecting others.. if you have a screwy false idea keep it to yourself don't teach it to your kids.. if you think you have the only true religion--but--your religion keeps changing their "truth" maybe you should get a clue!.
jesus warned about stumbling his "little ones.
" he used the word "woe".
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cptkirk
You know how it used to be in our military where people who were super gung-ho would get promoted and then it started to get out of hand? (hence the character Frank Burns on MASH) ... in the sense that they realized a lot of wackos could just act super gung-ho and that would be all that they needed (as long as adequate minimal intelligence was present), to get a high rank and a comfy position? of course it dawned on the military that this was a problem and they began to correct it.
the problem with the jws is now 30-40 years later, they are still promoting all the gung-ho wack jobs and assigning them divinity. i'll just stop typing right there because i think the point is clear
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Wouldn't it be cool if the pope did an expose thing like Ray Franz did?!
by Muddy Waters inwouldn't it be cool if the pope did an expose thing about the catholic church and all the heirarchies/inside secrets, etc., like ray franz did when he exposed the inner workings at the highest level of the jw religion?
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cptkirk
this is all you need to know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_nNLEOO3E
yes i know copy paste is very difficult but i believe in you.
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Pro-JW website SLAMS apostates
by yadda yadda 2 inat the site, click on the pictures to read lengthy diatribes against apostates lol.. apostasy "seeing oneself as a victim denied" .
as a result of seeing oneself as a victim denied, there can occur a powerful drive toward disaffection and apostasy.
as is almost inevitably the case, there is a great need on the part of a leave-taker to validate their oppositional stance, and the victim-victimizer scenario greatly assists a person in justifying their course of action.
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cptkirk
If you want to lure them here all you need is some fresh blood; they crave blood (the ms and elders) ,many of them. what i mean by that is, people (especially women but also men) who are scared and indecisive, that are possibly also in the midst of some trouble with them--if they hear those people voicing dissent it drives them into a blood frenzy in some cases. reminds me of that line from frisky dingo where the girl says "please don't kill me" to killface, and he replies, "please don't make it so appealing". it's the same concept, scared girl ends up saying all the wrong things, makes them want to sink their teeth in all the more. the more decisive and angry you are the less you see that, because then they can just say: "look at how crazy those apostates are", but if you speak in a meek tone and are very indecisive but you are leaning toward the fact that the elders are in fact wrong, oh god, blood frenzy.
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Pro-JW website SLAMS apostates
by yadda yadda 2 inat the site, click on the pictures to read lengthy diatribes against apostates lol.. apostasy "seeing oneself as a victim denied" .
as a result of seeing oneself as a victim denied, there can occur a powerful drive toward disaffection and apostasy.
as is almost inevitably the case, there is a great need on the part of a leave-taker to validate their oppositional stance, and the victim-victimizer scenario greatly assists a person in justifying their course of action.
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cptkirk
Give me one day in court, and I will completely and comprehensively --layer by layer--eviscerate these folks. I am a wildman? what would i want with a courtroom then? are wildmen given to a preference of law rather than violence?
Let me lay down the premise in the most succinct possible way.
#1 - It is pretty much a given that when you accept a religion such as this--you are going to be giving yourself to the religion with 100% faith and acceptance of all doctrine; that is pretty much a given correct? ie. it would be rare to find someone that has doubts about specific issues, and then just all of the sudden says ok i'll get baptized, correct?
With that said, and also with the understanding that you are accepting the role as "sheep", would it not also be a given that you are basically putting your life in the hands of these (elders) without any reservation? ie. with your guard down completely.
Now, let's use an analogy. If Mike Tyson (in his prime) went into a match and decided that he didn't need to guard himself, what do you think would happen? (I use Tyson as an example to show that even the strongest person alive cannot survive the proceeding metaphor)--what would happen? what would happen is even a fairly weak punch could possibly knock the man out. And in contrast, if a person went up AGAINST Tyson, and decided to use *no* cover, what do you think would happen? (if you know anything about fighting or boxing you should know) one punch would be a death sentence basically.
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We know that in the JW Cult, keeping your guard up is a no no. Keeping your guard up is tantamount to being an apostate because you will be "asking questions", and you will be thinking rationally? which many times conflicts with JW teaching? So, little sheep, you better keep your guard down or we are gonna get you.
The fact is if they want to *get* you, you are as the man standing in the ring with Tyson, saying "I better not put my guard up or he might label me an apostate", boom dead.
We know that not only do elders speak abusively to many in the cong (literally 100,000's of examples), but that they also do things like disfellowship innoncent people? people who have given 100% faith to the fact that the "holy spirit" is directing things.
We have also shown that god cannot be convicted of evil, and we have defined evil....yet we have 1000's of instances of elders behaving in ways that would fall into the category of "evil"? it is pretty clear cut that we have all of the evidence to show that the following points in this outline prove some very VERY serious charges to be 100% legitimate.
These three points illustrate that: 1. you must at all times believe everything you are fed or you will be suspect and 2. elders commit evil , and 3. a person that is not at least on some guard while taking a punch, will be affected +1000% in damage, as compared to the normal person that uses some discernment and balances themselves with a degree of defense. (and again there is no defense in this org defense is apostasy)
#2 Whether you like it or not, the world we live in is dangerous (even before you get to all of the psychopaths). The events in space can at ANYTIME obliterate our entire planet, and there is non-stop violence occurring in space every second. Whether it is the storms on Jupiter, or the collisions of galaxies, supernovas, you name it. Creation and destruction are both violent in all cases.
Now what would you say about a human being that did not have some mastery over the absolute essence of the world he/she belonged to? would you call that person a fool? I definitely would. And, what would you say about the people who demanded that other human beings completely strip themselves of defense mechanisms that may at times be violent in word or deed? From a completely objective viewpoint what would you think? I know what I would think. I would think that these people have some serious control issues and are trying to manipulate other people into being complete slaves?
This is just the tip of the iceberg.