You know, soft+gentle you have just confirmed by earlier beliefs that we are actually here on this planet to learn. We go through experiences in our and are transformed by then in either better or wiser people.
trailerfitter
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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone
by Band on the Run inan earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.
women make up the majorty of witnesses.
they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.
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DEBUNKING BIBLE MIRACLES: Joshua telling the sun to stand still
by Black Man inso, i'd love to start some threads debunking biblical miracles as the fairytale fiction that they are.
the first i'd like to start off with is jehovah supposedly making the sun stand still to allow joshua's army enough daylight to conquer the amorites.
here's a quote sentex.net explaining why this would be completely impossible:.
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trailerfitter
Oh,.. the 600 000 in the desert after running away from Pharoh. I started thinking about the logistics on this one. Picutre a small city of inhabitants setting down somewhere. The operations of of microcosm would have to be considered. Where do they get water supplied from in desert conditions. They either have to send massive hunting parties out, water collections, raiding a pillaging settlement that stands in their way in order no one starves. The waste disposal issues would bring disease means that people who are camped would be no better off than those of refugees running away from a natural disaster.
Bit like the Noah story nice to read but to actually apply modern adult logic to the practical logisitic of the story it becomes un realistic.
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Watchtower teaching have all the bases covered?
by trailerfitter ini am not sure if you are aware of the proposals by pastor micheal stahl who wants to get a register of atheists started so they activities like boycotting their businesses can be engaged in.
i mensioned this to my jw wife who already who i am trying to show that the wt policies are just a nutty as other american religious influences however she just retored that this is the sign of the end because there is a war going on.
i cannot get through to her and everything goes back to her newly found belief being the only true one.
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trailerfitter
souder, you writing in invisible ink??
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WT: "Don't watch news items featuring witnesses!"
by cedars inhi everyone, yet another analysis of a recent watchtower i'm afraid.
this one's a little closer to home, as it concerns apostates.
yes - i'm referring to the forthcoming article "will you heed jehovah's clear warnings?
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trailerfitter
Cedars,...thank you for that warning. I hope this is in a series of further warnings. This sort of attitude is from the WTBTS is very effective.
When I first started having regular contact with the JWs though the wifes bible class I started to investigate the organisation digging up anything I could find. Eventually I found a BBC article on a Peadofile in the KH via the internet. You know the stories so I won't go into it. I asked the BS teacher what she thought of it. She was shocked and honestly didn't know this sort of thing was happening. I was amazed that for a few weeks afterwards she reacted to me totally differently and she appeared more afraid of me than usual. Yes she is afraid of me for some reason,...She must having been thinking I was Satan incarnate over this enlightenment. I have no idea what she did to remove any doubt of the organisation after this attempt at wrecking their Bullpoo Bible Study tea parties.
Wife said that Satan ruled the internet and nothing was to be trusted.. however the trusted site where she got her information about Abraham Lincoln and his belief in god was okay though... (no Surprise there then huh?).
I really would like to know where the buttons in the head were to "release wife from self deluding thoughts" is.
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DEBUNKING BIBLE MIRACLES: Joshua telling the sun to stand still
by Black Man inso, i'd love to start some threads debunking biblical miracles as the fairytale fiction that they are.
the first i'd like to start off with is jehovah supposedly making the sun stand still to allow joshua's army enough daylight to conquer the amorites.
here's a quote sentex.net explaining why this would be completely impossible:.
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trailerfitter
Smitty. Truth is a very subjective thing.
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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone
by Band on the Run inan earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.
women make up the majorty of witnesses.
they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.
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trailerfitter
Why do women allow themselves to be treated the way they do?.. quote of Timothy 2;11 is the first that comes to mind...From a religious context and the effect it had on society for 1000s of years,.... blame the people who wrote the bible and what they ultimately thought of women. Men are terrified of loosing control and the base evolutionary reason for male dominating thier spouse / partner is protection of family and passing "his" genes on. The same is reflected in other species in nature however this is specific to evolution and survival. In reality the female will choose the best mate for mating.
There are no goddesses in the Judeo/Christian religions only an all powerful MALE figure to be worshipped without question. No women or female forces to worship unlike the Polytheistic cultures that came before the one god idea...All that was destroyed or oppressed.
Women have never had it so good in this society and it is because they have struggled to get at least equal status. This is not the responsibilty of the churches but rather humanity divorcing itself from Christian beliefs.
Historically we have only really started to progress in humanity with human rights, equality and free thinking in the last 10 decades, thats 100 years or so...... that is not many generations compared to how long the scriptures have been enforced. Modern churches just want to retard the advancement of humanity by using worn out and poorly applied dogma that has hindered rather than helped. Again Timothy 2:11 explains what women should do... I find Ironic,...... women teach males when they are at their most vulnerable, from birth they are taught the most basics.
The Christian / Jewish and Muslim churches have kept women in thier place for 1000s of years and before that they we still treated not equally. I find it obserd that my wife who is a newbie at the Kingdom Hall is quite prepared to accept that she is lower than a man (although in practice she is still as arrogant as her mother). and I find it quite sickening that her firends tell me they are making my wife into a "better wife". There was nothing wrong with her in the first place I didn't ask for it or even allow it. I married my wife for her unique qualities which are now being erroded and supressed. We had an equal power base in our house, she makes decisions and so do I on different area of our lives.
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Watchtower teaching have all the bases covered?
by trailerfitter ini am not sure if you are aware of the proposals by pastor micheal stahl who wants to get a register of atheists started so they activities like boycotting their businesses can be engaged in.
i mensioned this to my jw wife who already who i am trying to show that the wt policies are just a nutty as other american religious influences however she just retored that this is the sign of the end because there is a war going on.
i cannot get through to her and everything goes back to her newly found belief being the only true one.
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trailerfitter
I am not sure if you are aware of the proposals by Pastor Micheal Stahl who wants to get a register of atheists started so they activities like boycotting their businesses can be engaged in. I mensioned this to my JW wife who already who I am trying to show that the WT policies are just a nutty as other American religious influences however she just retored that this is the sign of the end because there is a war going on. Really? I cannot get through to her and everything goes back to her newly found belief being the only true one. everyone else is wrong.
This phenomena of silly religious staements and ideas in our modern times all origionate in the USA and filters through to us here in Europe unfortunately.
What is it I need to show my beloved for her to realise that the JWs are no different? That we ( normal people) are not influenced by Satan. Please don't say join the JWs.......
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"Hobo Witness"
by RayPublisher ina kid at school called my daughter a "hobo witness".
i had never heard that one.. as some of you already know, i'm fading and the wifey is not awake very asleep, but the kids are in the middle.
anyway, my daughter was bothered by his name calling- and on one hand i wanted to go down there and tear his little puny head off for calling my daughter names, but on the other hand i wanted to laugh...is that bad?.
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trailerfitter
So what is the difference for being called names ...do you not think children will find any excuse for name calling? Its that JW persecution coming out again.
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EXCLUSIVE NEW LIGHT! How to calculate the length of the overlapping generations - SCRIPTURALLY!
by agonus inok, so the one scripture that supports the "overlapping generations" doctrine is the one about joseph having brothers, right?.
well, then, logically, if that scripture buttresses the glorious new light - and we know how long that "generation" was - we should be able to calculate the date for armageddon, no?.
allowing for a maximum period starting with the year of the birth of the eldest brother (reuben if i'm not mistaken), and ending with the year of the death of the youngest (benjamin, correct?
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trailerfitter
Millions living now will never die!.......... ha ha.
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DEBUNKING BIBLE MIRACLES: Joshua telling the sun to stand still
by Black Man inso, i'd love to start some threads debunking biblical miracles as the fairytale fiction that they are.
the first i'd like to start off with is jehovah supposedly making the sun stand still to allow joshua's army enough daylight to conquer the amorites.
here's a quote sentex.net explaining why this would be completely impossible:.
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trailerfitter
Feeding of the 5 thousand is a bit much of a claim,....getting back on track. I do not know how Jesus hid the Juggernauts that brought all that food to him. Imagine the time it actuallt took too to manually break each bit of bread too?....would have needed the sun to stand still on that day too just for jesus to have completed that task. 5000 people wow work it out. big long queue, a lot of crumbs sore hands from all that work.