anybody got the full year's worth of awakes for 1967 that they would be willing to share?.
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the 1967 awake set is the only year that i am lacking before 1970. i've seen a partial set floating around, but never the full year though .
Curious here; you say "Awake set." Are you looking for individual magazines for the whole year, or will a bound volume do?
If a bound volume is ok, they can be found on ebay for a few dollars plus a shipping fee of about $4, if you are in the USA, and if you want English. They don't come up every day, but if you watch it for a few weeks, you will find one.
The individual magazines are much harder to find.
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if you've never seen this one-hour film, it's pretty interesting.. .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz_7uj-fo0.
this is the awake that has the pictures of kids that died because they or their families refused blood.. my jw mom refuse to believe that the wt would put their faces on a magazine.. does anyone know where i can get a copy or download it?.
thanks.
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Cover and page 2 (inside front cover)
Large file size, should be suitable for printing.
had an interesting chat with my ex re the current debate over working with children checks - of which she has one due to her volunteering at our childrens primary school.
i remember when she had to apply that i made the comment elders & mss should be having background checks due to the history of abuse in the borg and covering up (these discussions normally dont go down well as she is well and truly blinded, well meaning, but blinded).. anywho, she told me about the recent letter that was read to all the victorian congregations, she couldnt tell me verbatim what it said, though the gist was that is no real need for elders to get this check, but rather they are complying with what has been asked legally.. now i dont know if what she said next was based on the letter read or the after discussions at the k/hall, but she made the comment the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers... i tried reasoning that another elder who moves in from interstate is certainly a stranger, until you get to know him on a personal level.
didnt matter how i reasoned or what incidents i bought up, the view amongst her and the other mums that she hangs around in the cong is that the elders getting a wcc check is totally unnecessary and that the jws are being picked on.. next week, i am meeting up with a mate who is an elder here in victoria and trying to step down, so will pick his brains and see if he can get a copy.... .
“the elders do not need the wcc as they are not strangers, they are our brothers…”
This is typical JW spin-thinking. Molesters get to know their victims, gain their confidence, make them comfortable, then make a move. Virtually all, if not absolutely all, the JW molesters were brothers who knew their victims. That's how it works.
The elders/older men/father/priests in other churches are not strangers either, but they still agree to the need to comply.
Bingo!
a jw corpse 'speaks'.
http://alwaysonasaturday.blogspot.com/2009/08/jw-meets-undignified-end.html.
bangalore.
This experience illustrates that people don't matter much at all to Jehovh's Witnesses. The only thing that does matter is the Organization; making the Society grow, making it look good, making it prosper, delivering it's literature, spreading it's message.
No one noticed this woman's situation beause the minds, activities, and pursuits of Jehovah's Witnesses are full of Organizational concerns. People are simply stepping stones, used to the end of making the Organization succeed. When they are no longer useful, they are quickly forgotten.
Love of God and neighbor? Neither are seen much in this religion. It's truly sad.
i have heard it stated before that job 1:4 is referring to job celebrating his children's birthdays.
others have claimed this is not the case.
does anyone have a good explanation of what this scripture is referring to?.
Very nice logic NVR2L8.
The two Biblical references to beheadings at birthday celebrations always seemed like a very thin reason to condemn all birthday observances. After all, it is the murders that were bad, no matter when they were committed. If birthdays were to be avoided then the Bible could have clearly said so, since they were practiced from early on.
To say something is a sin just because the Bible doesn't say it isn't seems like silly logic to me.
That is so funny! Very nice reply Koolaid-man. Love the sense of humor of people here.
i have heard it stated before that job 1:4 is referring to job celebrating his children's birthdays.
others have claimed this is not the case.
does anyone have a good explanation of what this scripture is referring to?.
Whether Job's 'day' was his birthday or not seems to make little difference when you accept the Watchtower explanation for accepting other pagan based practices and obversences. Sending flowers to a funeral, wearing a wedding ring, and using a pinjata at a party are all acceptable to JWs even though they have pagan connections.
Concerning the pinjata, the Awake!, 9-22-03 p23, 24 said, "A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area."
If considering ‘how the practice is viewed in your area,‘ and whether or not the practice has ‘lost the original meaning it had hundreds of years ago’ are acceptable logic with one pagan practice, why can’t the same be applied to other practices that have lost their original meanings, like birthdays?
The number of birthday celebrations where someone is beheaded have gotten to be in the minority; at least where I live.
before my mother became a jehovah's witness i remember.
the fun of christmas and opening the beautifully wrapped.
gifts under the christmas tree.
@ Ding and Bella 15
Nicely expressed about using the word '"excuse" to give presents'. Watchtower arrogance. Language that is loaded, loaded, loaded!
before my mother became a jehovah's witness i remember.
the fun of christmas and opening the beautifully wrapped.
gifts under the christmas tree.
@PSacramento,
Thanks for that post. I was not aware there were scholars that viewed Job's day as a birthday. The Living Bible is rendition is great too. This is going into my notes.
Jehovah's Witnesses accept several pagan based practices, such as sending flowers to a funeral, wearing wedding rings, having pinjatas at a party, and wearing pants.
Concerning the pinjata, the Society says,
"A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area." (Awake 9-22-03 p23, 24)
If that good logic can be applied to some pagan practices, why can't it be applied to birthday celebrations and all other pagan based practices as well? Believe it or not, the birthday observances that result in murder are in the minority.
