biblestudies in the report, is the numbers they show us correct?.
i've been thinking of this, and as i am from sweden i use my own country as an example.. to notice is that sweden is high penetrated of internet.
the young ones here is often really good in english.. and i suppose that hardly one third of the jw kids finaly get baptised.. at most positive.. .
Honeybucket,
Any discussion about the bible that is progressing, is a bible study
Yes! I remember a C.O. explaining that a Bible study can take place standing on a doorstep, and may only last a few minutes - it can be counted as a study if it's regular.
I believe that all of Watchtower's numbers are being stretched a bit.
Edit: I believe the C.O. said that if you have done it 3 times and made arrangements for the 4th, you can start counting it as a study.
during the last three to four months, i have spent a great deal of time sinking my teeth into various critical biblical commentaries and lexicons.
naturally, after beginning to research "the truth about the truth" one of the most commonplace yet controversial arguments revolve around the "gentile times" doctrine (i.e.
the application of the seven times of daniel 4 from 607 b.c.e.
Witness My Fury,
"My name is Legion: for we are many."
The perfect name for FaceTheFacts and his many Screen Identities!
"...the intimacy with farm animals is true.
[beastiality], theft, homosexuality, drunkeness, psychotic episodes, brawls, suicide, immorality, deceit and control is all true.
the sad thing is seeing young women wanting to marry a bethelite thinking that she is getting the 'cream of the crop' and they are probably worse than a so-called worldly person...the cynicism was palpable...the most emotionally unhealthy environments to be a part of...socially disfunctional people..."wheres caleb?http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/218165/3/your-most-disturbing-watchtower-bethel-branch-experience-no-full-names-please.
Vidquin, thanks for the NET explanation!
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2012 memorial partakers total 12,604.....atlantis
From Atlantis' footnote in the OP - A reference is made to Special pioneers, missionaries, traveling overseers, and Branch staff. They are a ll are members of the...
"Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses."
I did not know that such an Order existed in Watchtower.
This religion sounds more Cult-like all the time.
"...the intimacy with farm animals is true.
[beastiality], theft, homosexuality, drunkeness, psychotic episodes, brawls, suicide, immorality, deceit and control is all true.
the sad thing is seeing young women wanting to marry a bethelite thinking that she is getting the 'cream of the crop' and they are probably worse than a so-called worldly person...the cynicism was palpable...the most emotionally unhealthy environments to be a part of...socially disfunctional people..."wheres caleb?http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/218165/3/your-most-disturbing-watchtower-bethel-branch-experience-no-full-names-please.
Visquin, what does NET refer to in your post?
does a person's involvement in the jw religion usually fall into one of these 3 categories?.
a) born in.
b) convert.
Convert, but in the days leading up to 1975.
I swallowed the whole thing, hook, line and sinker.
It all appeared to make sense at the time, and I did not bother to research the history of Watchtower. If I had I surely would have learned about it's long history of making false predictions.
dear djegg, with your wisdom and insights into the watchtower theology, do you agree with their new "faithful slave" teaching?
you have not posted for a while, can you share your insights please?
i ask djegg because very few know jw theology the way he/she knows their doctrines and dogmas.
Was DJ banned?
having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.
so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?
be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .
FaceTheFacts,
The thread should be up today.
I'll be watching for it!
having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.
so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?
be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .
Since you are only using this thread to judge interest, count me in as wanting to read your thoughts, and others' responses, on Gentile Times Reconsidered.
Recovery, StillRecovery, OlinMoyle48 and Ethos would start threads promising comments on a subject that never came. Their posts would usually deteriorate into arguments that had nothing to do with the promised topic despite many posters showing interest. This made them appear to be confrontational and argumentative, beneath a facade of sincerity, which may have something to do with why they were banned.
I hope this isn't going to be another one of those.
When will you start the comments?
having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.
so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?
be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .
FaceTheFacts,
Face The Facts is one of my fav Rutherford-era publications as well. Hope that clears that up for ya.
Londo111
From page 46: "Would it be Scripturally proper f or them [the Great Crowd] to now marry a nd begin to rear children? No, is the answer, which is supported by the Scriptures."
Londo111, thanks for the download link.
I read some of the booklet under the topic of marrying and having children. Jonadabs (other sheep) were encouraged to wait to marry and have children. Why? Because armageddon was only a few years away!
(Face The Facts p50 par1)
“Those Jonadabs who now contemplate marriage, it would seem, would do better if they wait a few years, until the fiery storm of Armageddon is gone, and to then, enter the marital relationship and enjoy the blessings of participating in filling the earth with righteousness and perfect children.”
FaceTheFacts, that booklet is now one of my favorites too, if you get my meaning. Armageddon was always just around the corner and peoples lives were seriously impacted by the false hope.
Frankly though, there isn't much difference between any of the Rutherford era books and booklets that I can see.
I'm wondering, why would you adopt the name of a booklet that promoted such embarrassing false teachings? What exactly makes it your favorite?
