Posts by ScenicViewer

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WT Edits From Original Publications to Future Reprints and CD?

by NewChapter in

i've heard posters say that the wt sometimes changes original publications when they reprint or add them to the cd.

i guess to cover their tracks or something.

can anyone give me specific examples of this happening?

ScenicViewer

Nahum predicted trains; more from The Harp of God.

In the chapter "Our Lord's Return," paragraph 405 explains the difference between modern transportation and that before 1799; horse drawn vehicles vs trains, planes, and automobiles. (1799 was thought to be the beginning of the last days.)

In the original 1921 edition of The Harp of God the following paragraph, 406, says...

"God's prophet designates this same time as "the day of God's preparation". In Nahum 2:1-6 the prophet records his vision of a railway train traveling at a high rate of speed, as another evidence of the day of preparation for the establishment of Christ's kingdom."

In the next edition of The Harp of God (1928), the same paragraph leaves out the train forecast and says...

"The aforementioned inventions are related to 'the day of God's preparation' during Christ's presence. --Nahum 2:1-6"

(Verses 3 and 4 of the Nahum citation seem to be the key train references.

3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots flash with steel in the day of his preparation, and the cypress spears are brandished. 4 The chariots rage in the streets; they rush to and fro in the broad ways: the appearance of them is like torches; they run like the lightnings.)

So, did Nahum forsee this...?

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Chemicals buried at WT Farms (WT ruining the earth)

by doinmypart in

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it seems that the wt is guilty of illegally dumping printing chemicals (or as they like to say "ruining the earth") in upstate new york.

read the full articles from the news sites below.. "state officials are investigating chemical pollution found buried at an upstate new york property owned by the jehovah's witnesses organization.

" http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/8e675d204fbf4352ab2cf65086b4b411/ny--buried-chemicals/.

ScenicViewer

Condemning others for things you practice.

I am learning that this is standard Watchtower behavior.

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WT Edits From Original Publications to Future Reprints and CD?

by NewChapter in

i've heard posters say that the wt sometimes changes original publications when they reprint or add them to the cd.

i guess to cover their tracks or something.

can anyone give me specific examples of this happening?

ScenicViewer

However, it is in the CD

Curious here, I wonder why they dropped it from the reprinted volume but left it in the CD. Any ideas?

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WT Edits From Original Publications to Future Reprints and CD?

by NewChapter in

i've heard posters say that the wt sometimes changes original publications when they reprint or add them to the cd.

i guess to cover their tracks or something.

can anyone give me specific examples of this happening?

ScenicViewer

@ New Chapter

TD has it exactly right. The upper part of the page is blank. The very light text you see is showing through from the opposite side of the page.

When the Theocratic War Stratgey remarks were dropped, they were not replaced with anything.

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Breaking News from Steve Unthank - Police Launch Investigation into Traralgon Congregation

by Broken Promises in

australia, breaking news: police launch investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children with the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

jw news can report that victoria police have launched an investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children within the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses over the past two years.

according to initial reports,... the body of elders were strictly ordered by the watchtower bible and tract society of australia to cover-up the multiple rapes of a number of children within the traralgon congregation allegedly committed by a fellow member of the jehovah's witness religion.

ScenicViewer

@ I_falcon,

In your remarks to metatron you said,

Yes it is corrupt, of course, I agree on that.

Am I reading you right, yre you agreeing that the Watchtower is corrupt in it's handling of the child molestation issues? If so, you must also be agreeing that the 'spiritual paradise' that the Watchtower claims to have isn't real.

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WT Edits From Original Publications to Future Reprints and CD?

by NewChapter in

i've heard posters say that the wt sometimes changes original publications when they reprint or add them to the cd.

i guess to cover their tracks or something.

can anyone give me specific examples of this happening?

ScenicViewer

- Theocratic War Strategy (says it's ok to lie under certain circumstances)

1957 Watchtower Bound Volume. The original volume (red edging) encouraged using the Theocratic Wat Strategy in field service. These remarks were dropped from the latest reprint of that volume (white edging). See Scans below.

- The Harp of God (book)

The 1921 edition was subtitled "Proof Conclusive That Millions Now Living Will Never Die." Later editions replaced that subtitle with "The Harmony of the Ten Primary Bible Teachings."

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A film that is analogous of the Watchtower's demonization of the Internet and isolation from the outside world...

by cedars in

so what do you think?.

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http://youtu.be/kq_b_ukrgko.

ScenicViewer

Cedars said,

...she was still scared even though she learned the truth about the woods. This may well be compared to how difficult it is for Witnesses to shake free their feelings of guilt and paranoia even when they learn the real truth.

JWs are not alone in the fear and paranoia they experience during the exiting process. Almost anyone leaving a cult religious group of any brand will go through a similar experience. I believe groups like this are designed that way by the leadership as a deterrent against leaving.

Even though they deny being a cult, I am learning there are many similarities between JWs and hard-core cults.

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A film that is analogous of the Watchtower's demonization of the Internet and isolation from the outside world...

by cedars in

so what do you think?.

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http://youtu.be/kq_b_ukrgko.

ScenicViewer

Cedars,

Hm, I guess the analogy breaks down somewhat in certain areas. However, even though she was blind, she was one of the most farsighted and courageous ones in the village, so that her handicap didn't prevent her from doing what needed to be done.

Actually I didn't mean it to sound like the analogy was breaking down because she was blind. I was thinking of how representative she is of most of JWs. In a sense they too are blind because they see only what they are told to see, and allowed to see anything else. In the movie the blind girl was driven by a purpose, getting the medicine. The JWs who care, who are driven, who mentally see a larger purpose than blindly following thei leaders (GB) will find a way out despite the restrictions.

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WT Mar 15th 2012 - 144,000 no longer a literal number?

by dozy in

reading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.

(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.

it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.

ScenicViewer

If they get too many partakers, you may be on to something.

They've already got too many partakers.

(W 1-15-2000 p13 “Six convincing lines of evidence that we are in the last days”)
… Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller.”

That was said in the year 2000.

Partakers in 2000......8,661

Partakers in 2011....11,824

If the number of dwindling partakers proved we are in the last days, what does an increasing number of partakers prove?

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A film that is analogous of the Watchtower's demonization of the Internet and isolation from the outside world...

by cedars in

so what do you think?.

.

http://youtu.be/kq_b_ukrgko.

ScenicViewer

Another analogous situation ...is that somebody gets wounded, and the only way to save him is to leave the perceived safety of the village to get medicines from the "towns". Perhaps a metaphor for the need to abandon the ridiculous stance on blood transfusions?

It just occurred to me that the first one to make it out of the village and into the free world....was blind! There's a symbolism for you.