You were disfellowshipped, but had it reversed. Was the disfellowshipping rescinded, or did you get reinstated?
Either way, why would the elders care if you talk with your mother?
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by truthseeker1969 inas many of you are aware the elders visited my sister and asked her (a non witness) to ask me not to contact my mother (a dedicated believer).. lo and behold, they went were angels fear to tread and spoke with my mother who in turn asked them to show her from scripture where a baptized person who was disfellowshipped and had it reversed was a threat to anyone?.
as far as she was concerned they were 'sheperding" (i call it fishing) and asked where i lived as they would like to contact me, hmmm a flight to the us would be theraputic.
she denied there request for the information.. they told her they were looking out for her spiritual well being.
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Is this HARD evidence that the INTERNET is hurting the Watch Tower Society?
by cedars inthese are the countries with 80 to 89.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 70 to 79.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 60 to 69.99% internet penetration:.
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The original graph had a mistake in it, a reversed axis (it was axis backwards... ). Ceders didn't really revise is, just corrected it, and did it the way it should have been. He is the one who made the graph to start with.
Edit: Oops! I see Cedars is here. Now you've got the best answer of all.
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Victoria, Australia: The long edition (new) of Part 2 of Steven Unthank's report of molestation/rape within the Traralgon Cong.
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.jwnews.net/.
crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?
part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .
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Ts1969,
Maybe more will be written if there are convictions, but if the Watchtower wiggles out of it there won't be much to report. As you say, private prosecutions are often not taken seriously; probably because most don't have enough merit. If the prosecutors take this case over from Unthank it will be a big step forward.
I think most of us on this site are hoping for convictions and news coverage eventually. The case deserves it.
Oz makes a good point, it's just Jehovah's Witnesses, a small religious group in the world. If a reporting agency could aim the story more toward the child abuse angle, maybe it would sell. For us, we are looking at how bad the Watchtower is, but for the story to get the public's interest it might need to highlight the children's safety issues.
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Victoria, Australia: The long edition (new) of Part 2 of Steven Unthank's report of molestation/rape within the Traralgon Cong.
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.jwnews.net/.
crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?
part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .
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@Truthseeker1969,
I don't think there have been many news articles. These two are several months old.
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The 1260 Days a tenfold kaleidoscope of Watchtower waverings.
by FatFreek 2005 inthe following table illustrates the extent to which watchtower sometimes goes in their interpretation of scriptures.
when i look at that table and the charts that follow, it makes me think of the word kaleidoscope.
i suspect we've all played with such a toy when we were kids.. kaleidoscope -- a constantly changing pattern or sequence of objects or elements.
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Thanks for the chart. I like examples of Watchtower moving backward, flip floping, after their claims to never do it.
A side thought, Do you have page numbers for those references?
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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- We must be at our work urgently, since the time left is reduced. (Heard a lot about 40 years ago.)
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Is this HARD evidence that the INTERNET is hurting the Watch Tower Society?
by cedars inthese are the countries with 80 to 89.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 70 to 79.99% internet penetration:.
these are the countries with 60 to 69.99% internet penetration:.
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...in the U.S., growth is mainly in hispanic congregations, not in english speaking areas? And yet, everybody here has pretty much the same access to the internet...
There may be some cultural differences at work here too. There are many economic and social groups within the U.S. I wonder what the internet penetration is among Hispanics.
Also, in my limited experience, Hispanics as a group are very submissive to, and respectful of, authority. For those who are already JWs, if the Society says 'stay off the internet,' they are likely to comply, the result being fewer defectors from the Watchtower. If the number of defectors eventually increases, the number of new ones coming will likely decline as well.
This is the cause and effect the Society is fighting so hard against. (The cause: people becoming informed via the internet, and many leaving the Org. The effect: Less people to declare their message, less zeal among those left in, resulting in lower increases.)
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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dm6 said,
...all the weird talk they always talk, in trying to be perfect..."How wonderful it is"
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That is cringeness at its finest!
You've started a laugh riot here!
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JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS
by strymeckirules inwhat saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
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Even if we didn't have the truth our religion is still a great way of life.
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A BIG change the Watchtower will have to face up to . . .
by nicolaou in1995 drew a line of demarcation.
the doctrinal rudder of freddie franz was gone, the sacred cow of the 1914-generation had been slaughtered and the internet had arrived!.
it will take a while longer but the time is coming when pre-1995 old timers like the gentleman below will be an impotent force within the society - if that hasn't happened already.
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Another thought.
There is already less increase in advanced countries than there has been in the past. Is it possigle that Third World countries, where information is less available, are producing the real increase.
Mayabe those places will be targeted more heavily by the Watchtower in the future. I wonder if this is one of the reasons the Society became an NGO affiliate of the United Nations and still has some hidden NGO connections, to pave the way to gain entry into countries previously inaccessable.
Just an idea.