Posts by snare&racket

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Does science enhance nature or dilute it for you?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

make a nice mug of hot choc, or your favourite tea/coffee and snuggle up with an inspirational mind...... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgaw9qe7dee.

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snare&racket

Make a nice mug of hot choc, or your favourite tea/coffee and snuggle up with an inspirational mind.....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgaw9qe7DEE

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Understanding our CURE from ADDICTION to the Watchtower cult.

by Fernando in

would it be fair to say many of the posts on jwn are in essence about this?.

if we could better understand what worked for us, would we be better able to help others?.

where do basic human needs ("met" by the cult) end, and where does addiction start?.

snare&racket

Ignorance fuels the disease, information the cure.

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Friend Told Me To "Get Over My Doubts & Keep Going Like Everything Is OK!!

by NoMoreHustle in

had a coversation with a very close friend (of 15 years) and understands how i feel about the wt org.

he himself is a serious doubter.

i on the other hand am not a doubter, i know with every living ounce of myself that this is a cult!

snare&racket

What's the harm in dabbing just a little human excraiment on your lips? Especially if your family would be mad if you didn't?.....

I had a friend like this, he wasn't as awake as your pal, he even admitted to things such as saying "The society suggest...." When saying things from the platform he disagreed with. Helped the poor guy sleep at night I guess.... Very sad.

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The Dude ;)

by talesin in

okay, come on ........ how many of you guys out there love the dude?

he's a frickin' role model!

any other favorite movie characters - those that inspire you, that express how you feel about your new-found freedom, or transformation, life in the borg?.

snare&racket

The dude abides........

I get ripped for drinking White Russians at inappropriate places and times of day ........... But then, I do need a nice rug.

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Why can't I just leave?

by Trapped in JW land in

some of you may know my situation.

i'm still going to meetings, but i am a closet apostate and homosexual i. only keep going to meetings to please my family and some friends.

i guess i could tell my mom i no longer want to be a jehovah's witness and stop going to meetings, but i'm too scared to do it.

snare&racket

If you find attending is eating you alive from the inside, the ignorance, the xenophobia, the sexist, racist, homophobic, selfish view that JW's have of the world....

then stop going...

One day you will have to stop going, weigh up the benefits and cons of making that day.....today.

Snare

p.s. I decided to go to the elders with my concerns. They told me to not go whilst I had such concerns. Happiest day I had in about 5 years, 5 years of depression, confusion, stress because I knew it wasn't true and didn't know how to leave, in the end it was simple.... you can just leave. It is FAR easier than people think. As for the reactions of family, you can't halt it, you can't live for them, it is their shame to carry if they put loyalty to an extremist, backward belief system over their own family. There will not be a magic moment where all your family and friends will say "oh yes look, it's bullshit!" And leave en masse with you. But people like you leaving, will help others see how easy it is to leave. You won't be the only one feeling like this in your congregation, there will be several.....

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"You can't believe anything science says, they're always changing their minds.."

by disposable hero of hypocrisy in

jw
friends

i know this is going to come up in a conversation shortly, how would you respond to this?

i've had it said to me before, specifically about health, one week wine/eggs/milk/axle grease is good for you, next week it's not..

snare&racket

Ask them for examples.....

The scientific method is only about 200 years old and has only really been applied to research and progress for about 100 years.,In that 100 years we have gone from horse and cart to lamding laboratories on comets.

When someone says 'people once said the early was flat' that is irrelevant to the term science. Whilst people were saying this, some people were using geometry to calculate the circumference of the earth to three decimal places, this was relevant to science.

These people won't be able to define science and won't have examples of science changing, Evidence does not change, evidence is added to and can have various interpretations. science is the gathering of evidence and of course as we gather more we learn more and our interpretations can increase.

The staple test to see if science is a valid method is to see whether it works...does it answer questions and solve problems? it clearly does.

Read them the scientific method. Explain who a scientist is. Explain the difference between newspaper articles about anacdotal opinion and 10 year random controlled trials, double blinded, with results indicating 'x'.

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What really woke me up: I started noticing most JWS are weirdos..

by kneehighmiah in

jw
friends

thankfully my parents are converts so they aren't wierd.

seemed pretty popular by all accounts.

they are "popular" jws even now.

snare&racket

No doubt about it, once you distance yourself from 'the organisation' (clue) and then return to visit friends/family, you see just how bizarre they are in beliefs and actions. My last encounter, a meal with several my age left me embarrassed how ignorant to world events they were. Then there was the constant homophobia and racism. This all in 2hrs over a meal. I was so shocked by the encounter and happy to go home, ashamed that I had been like that not so long ago.

The levels of ignorance can not be ignored. It's astounding what a JW will cold faced claim in 2014.

Indeed this is not unique to JW's, but then we are here because that is what we have experienced.

If you are questioning our doubtless bias on this topic of weirdness, a 10 min chat with an average person will send home the message loud and clear. Normal people think JW's are bat shit crazy.

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Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?

by Gnostic Bishop in

have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.