Metatron,
I don't think people in the USA know or care about what's been going on there.
scotoma
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Peace In The Middle East - It's a comin'
by scotoma infrom the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).
un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.
that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.
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World's Greatest Music: Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, voted # 1
by compound complex innow playing at kdfc.com.
interesting that dvorak's symphony no.
9 was voted to the number two spot .
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scotoma
Why the attack on classical music?
People who are willing to rank their favorite classical pieces probably have an appreciation for that music.
When I played in symphony orchestra I enjoyed Beethoven because I could experience the intricacies. But I get sleepy listening to it at a concert.
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Peace In The Middle East - It's a comin'
by scotoma infrom the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).
un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.
that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.
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scotoma
Mind Blown,
The Ho-Hum attitude is based on the idea that the past equals the future.
What's wrong with that attitude? It's simply false. If you believe in emergence as the product of evolution you have to know that the past doesn't equal the future. We wouldn't be here if that were true. There IS a thread to history but it isn't based on perfect fidelity.
No event in itself is significant as an "event".
It's just like a royal flush in poker. In reality, a royal flush isn't rarer than any other hand. It's how it is perceived in the context of the game that gives it value.
Surely, the conflict between Israel and Palestine is minute compared to Pakistan and India but that is also why it is such a nuisance. The population of Israel and Palestine is about 1/1000 of the earths total population. It is at the intersection of three continents. It is at the center of the worlds oil production. It is a deeply religious area with holy places important to three great religions.
If these two small countries can't achieve peace it casts a shadow over the hope of peace for mankind.
If these two ancient enemies can come to an agreement it will be a cause for optimism that all countries ought to be able to settle their differences and achieve peace.
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First video of jw's reaction to oppening of new bethel compound dedication
by trujw inhttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jf-0xwmpwts&list=plee829caad539ac11&feature=plpp .
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scotoma
Good actors. Anyone not crying will be shot and the expressions of their families will be shown.
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Peace In The Middle East - It's a comin'
by scotoma infrom the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).
un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.
that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.
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scotoma
It's obvious that this forum doesn't give a rats ass about a Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.
Perhaps I should have phrased the Title: "2014 YEAR OF SOLIDARITY WITH PALESTINIAN PEOPLE" Is this a step toward Peace and Security?
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When A Fellow Apostate Goes Insane, What Can We Do To Help?
by RottenRiley ini don't know how to handle the situation with a fellow apostate who has lost their mind due to this evil cult.
this guy is texting many of the elders under alias of six different cell-phones no less than twenty times a day.. .
we had to change the locks at the kingdom hall because he was still stalking and prowling around the hall after advertsing he had left the kingdom hall and we were all no less than mind-dead zombies sucking out of the life of thinking individuals.
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scotoma
Have the elders pray over him and cast the demon out.
Just like Paul when he was being harrassed.
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Peace In The Middle East - It's a comin'
by scotoma infrom the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).
un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.
that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.
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scotoma
From the UN NEWS CENTRE (with breaking news from the UN News Service)
UN officials hope observance of International Year will lead to Israeli-Palestinian peace
16 January 2014 – The United Nations today launched the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between Israel and Palestine.
“The coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-State solution,” Deputy Secretary-General Jan Eliasson said in his remarks to the UN General Assembly’s Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People.
Mr. Eliasson said Israeli and Palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues. That means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.
It also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign State of Palestine living alongside a secure State of Israel, where each side recognizes the other’s legitimate rights, he added.
“The Secretary-General and I urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.”
Last November, the General Assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the International Year of Solidarity with the Palestinian People, and requested the Committee to organize activities around the observance.
General Assembly President John Ashe told today’s meeting that he hoped the Year leads to “robust” support for the people of Palestine. “I am sure I speak for many when I say that I hope the Year helps foster an atmosphere of dialogue and mutual understanding between the two sides of this decades-long conflict,” he said.
“We live in an international context that requires cooperation among all parties, entities and beings to find solutions to the challenges facing the human family. There are no exceptions; Israel and Palestine must find agreement on the conditions in which they can live side by side in peace and security.”
UN officials, including Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, have noted that 2014 could be a an important year in the Middle East peace process, if both sides are willing to take bold steps and refrain from actions that undermine progress in the peace talks that resumed last year.
“Now is the time for vision, compromise and deepening of respect. Let us make this year – 2014 – the decisive year for achieving peace between Israel and Palestine,” said Mr. Ashe. “I implore all those who have a stake in this outcome – Governments, international organizations, and people everywhere – to do their part.”
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This site has been going for 13 years. Did you ever at one point fear armageddon?
by ILoveTTATT ini am just wondering about all of you who have been on this site for long.
in all of the events that have happened since 2000 (for example, september 11th), have you at any point, even you die-hard apostates, felt like "oooh sh!t... i should go back to the kh"... just to have the world survive the latest disaster?.
what was the worst event for you, in terms of saying... "did i mess up???
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scotoma
DataDog,
There is nothing significant about a blood moon.
It is slightly noteworthy that it happens on the passover.
It is still interesting that Titus made his AD70 attack on Jerusalem on Passover and it was a passover with an eclipse of the moon AND it also was April 14.
The real eye catcher would be if prior to April 14 Israel and Palestine achieved a significant breakthrough in the struggle for peace along with a lot of fanfare and public display.
At that point you might want to watch out for the other shoe to drop.
My stomach would be churning at that point. And though few here would admit it most on this board would have some second thoughts.
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This site has been going for 13 years. Did you ever at one point fear armageddon?
by ILoveTTATT ini am just wondering about all of you who have been on this site for long.
in all of the events that have happened since 2000 (for example, september 11th), have you at any point, even you die-hard apostates, felt like "oooh sh!t... i should go back to the kh"... just to have the world survive the latest disaster?.
what was the worst event for you, in terms of saying... "did i mess up???
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scotoma
I am an atheist.
But I admit to the possibility of other sentient material life forms who may be able to utilize the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and travel to an infinite number of universes just an instant in time away from our universe.
What do big brother sentient beings do? Since cooperation is necessary for a culture to evolve to its highest potential (you either get along or kill each other) these big brothers of the universe jump around making subtle adjustments that help other sentient entities evolve.
The payoff for the big brothers is the marvelous products that can emerge from the interconnecting minds of trillions of beings. Perhaps the ability to create new universes by utilizing energy of galaxy clusters - WHATEVER. Use your imagination.
Perhaps a "personal god" is a placeholder for cooperation. Utilizing the natural desire for survival built into competing species these entities "bribe" us mortals into acutally believing we will live forever as long as we love (cooperate) with one another. Everlasting life is a trick to make us willing to sacrifice for the good of the whole.
That's where I start to worry. None of us are important. We are all expendable because there are an infinite number of experiments going on with an infinite number of Bobs, Teds, Carols and Alices that work as modules. In this SciFi like universe progress is made by jettisoning our selfish desires for status, food, sex, which all are the basis for war but have been essential to climb the ladder of sentience.
You get a group of people and tell them they are special. You eventually send a special envoy who tells them that they aren't special. They kill him. This impresses people. He becomes the model of self-sacrifice. Since no nation is special there is no need to kill others. You let all the "special" people create a terrible world and bring it to the edge of destruction. The people who aren't special actually become unique because they survive the destruction because of their worldwide brotherhood based on self-sacrifice. The world is shaken by the chaos but impressed by the survival of those who cooperate and have self-sacrificing love.
Everyone learns the lesson. At that point the big brothers let them start associating with the more advanced societies of the cosmos.
Back to why I worry. Since everlasting life is just a gimmick I'm not really going to live forever as promised. I will either die for the good of all or just die anyway.
"It may be you will be hid on the day of Jehovah's anger."
But then none of it matters on a personal level because there are an infinite number of each of us moving along some continuum somewhere.
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Seven Headed Wild Beast officially no longer represents UN?
by donuthole inaccording to a new "bible questions answered": " the wild beast with seven heads introduced at revelation 13:1 represents the worldwide political system.".
i know that they have quietly been backing away from the un identification for awhile.
is this feature on jw.org a new official teaching, or just a spin for the sake of the public?.
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scotoma
NO IMAGE OF THE BEAST IN REVELATION CHAPTER 17
The Watchtower says that the beast with seven heads and ten horns in Revelation Chapter 17 must be the image of the the two horned beast in Revelation Chapter 13.
If you read Revelation 17 there is no mention of the "image of the beast." It simply speaks of a scarlet beast with seven heads and ten horns. So how can the assertion be made that there is an identity between the "image of the beast" and the scarlet colored beast. Since it never mentions the "image of the beast" in Revelation 17 you can't make that claim.
The Watchtower makes a simple error to arrive at this conclusion. Since the Scarlet Beast "looks like" the beast in Revelation 13 it is believed it is therefore "the image" of the Revelation 13 beast. But there is a simpler reason the beast of Revelation 17 looks like the beast of Revelation 13. It is because they both resemble their power source which is Satan the Devil who in Revelation 12:3 is described as having Seven heads and ten horns.
Since Revelation 17 specifically calls the beast a "beast" we must assume that the beast is what it is named a "beast." Not the "image" of the beast. Because the beast of Revelation 13 and the beast of Revelation 17 are homologous in structure you can make a better case that the beast of Revelation 17 is the same as the beast of Revelation 13. Not only are they similar in structure but they both go through a similar cycle of death and rebirth.
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Revelation 13:3 "And I saw one of its heads as though slaughtered to death, but its death-stroke got healed, and ALL THE EARTH FOLLOWED THE WILD BEAST WITH ADMIRATION." Revelation 17:8 "And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those WHO DWELL ON THE EARTH WILL WONDER ADMIRINGLY." No mention here of an "IMAGE" of the beast.