... so i can flippin help tear it down from the inside!
TimothyT
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I want to be a Jehovah's Witness again...
by TimothyT in... so i can flippin help tear it down from the inside!.
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I am officially 'mentally diseased' by WBT$ standards!
by punkofnice inlast night whilst i was relaxing 2 elders came to my door to tell me i am officially da'd because of my 'actions'.
they weren't specific but i have been to church and telling others about the wbt$ scandals.. i was told they thought i was rude for ignoring their letters and not attending my jc.. my reply: 'you were the rude ones for sending me hounding letters when i specifically asked you never to contact me!'.
i got a 'hurumph' from the lead eldub.. i don't remember the whole conversation but they were annoyed i kept referring to the wbt$ as 'just a big business' but i told them they were on my property uninvited so they'd have to listen to my opinion and i don't have to listen to theirs.
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Well done Punk! First they come to YOUR door and then try to discuss YOUR business and then pin all the blame on YOU! I bet it feels good to tell them to go away!
I expect that I will receive a visit from 2 elders in 10 months or so... i think they do annual visits of disfellowshipped ones. When they do, im going to invite them in for a drink and tell them how AMAZING my life is now and how better it all is since i left, and that i reccomend it to them. :)
If they ever come back to your door tell them how AMAZING your life now is. Well done for going to church and for helping those who are interested in liberation from the JWs. :)
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WOWWWWWWWWWW!!! I have just checked an older thread that i did in Nottingham and the little thingy is different! Cool! Different IP - Different thingy! :)
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Well... i like the idea that they stand for magical fairies! Thats cute!
Anyway... mine is the same today as it was yesterday! :)
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So why did the organisation cause you anxiety or depression?
by TimothyT inin regards to my other post regarding attending counselling as a jw, i was wondering what it was about being a jw that caused you to be anxious, stressed or depressed?.
for me, i knew that the person i wanted to be was constantly being supressed by the wt.
there was a battle going on in my head between who i wanted to be and who they wanted me to be.
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Thanks everyone for your heartfelt comments. I think its fabulous that you are all here and that you are now building for the future like I am. :)
Just some interesting notes from your comments. It seems that the majority here went in for counselling because for one reason or another they were not allow to express their feelings. Every sense in your body was numbed and if you tried to use it you would be reprimanded. Consider it... you think too much about the doctrines - reprimanded. You want to listen to some music - reprimanded. You decide to go to uni - reprimanded. You decide to play a certain sport - reprimanded. You decide to meet some old school friends - reprimanded. There are so many unscriptural laws and rules within the organisation, no wonder the people within feel the pressure.
Also a number here have shown how they felt constantly inadequate. My dad would agree with this one. He was an elder for 10 years and is literaly a bible encyclopedia. He knows the lot... but he was always put down by others who had a sort of political agenda. Love, kidness and decency were put down and power, money and other things were put first. Like many here he was made to feel useless. Similarly, at conventions and assemblies we were often told that we just werent doing enough and we needed to do more. In terms of psychology and the mind, how exasperating is it when someone keeps moving the goal posts? Or how disheartening is it when you are struggling so much and someone comes up to you and kicks you in the shins telling you you arent doing enough. Where is the love?
Another big one mentioned here is the lack of love. We were taught that this was Jehovahs organisation, hence we expected to see it permeated by love. When you dont see it, and especialy when people are being hurt, it make you question the entire arrangement. If you are being personaly hurt then quite rightly the negative feelings and the positive loving image of the org dont correlate in your mind. Such things bring doubt and mental anguish.
Finaly, the other major influence mentioned here is pressure. Similar to inadequacy, the WTS seems to PILE the work onto those in charge. My dad could have done with counselling 10 years ago. When i look at his demeanour over the past 10 years, i can see how it all affected his health. He became so stressed, would often get dizzy and faint, would feel anger with others who annoyed him, often had to get up at 2am for an emergency shepherding visit, had to prepare every meeting, and bring up 2 boys as JWs. This led to his health worsening, at one point needing an operation which the doctor said was caused solely by stress. Similarly, every other elder and min serv in my cong was overworked and they often let it show... one or two being EXTREMELY BAD with nerves. I wished they would just give it up while they still could and step down at least to save themselves the stress.
Anyway, thanks for your comments.
Timmy
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TimothyT
They remind me of quadrinities!
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Yes... what does Maroon mean? Why have you and Ziddina got baby pink and baby blue? I want blue! Your quilt thingies are cute too.
Lol to your explanation by the way... but thanks realy To Ziddina. Its just another uniqe thingy! Cool! :)
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Did any of you need counselling or psychotherapy as a JW?
by TimothyT ini have just started my new course to be a qualified counsellor.
naturaly i am studying this because of my own background and now i want to help others who have had similar strains on their lives.. i know the pressure that the jw organisation puts on its members, so i was wondering, if you dont mind saying so of course, did any of you attend counselling sessions due to the pressures and problems that the jw life brought along?.
i can imagine that the majority of my old congregation (myself, my dad and my brother included) would need some form of counselling or medication in order to remain sane.
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Thanks everyone for your comments.
I know first hand what it is like to feel opressed by the borg, but the worst thing about it is when you are trapped in limbo and you dont even know where the pressure is coming from. Naturaly, you deny that it is the organisation which is causing it as you firmly want to believe that this is the truth and that Jesus is leading you. I pity those poor brothers and sisters who i knew that suffer terribly with anxiety, stress, and depression, but have no idea that perhaps the cause of it all is being part of this organisation. Even if they realise it, they cant change it because of threats of losing family, friends and spirituality. For the sake of my own health and life, I had to leave. Simple as that!
I think its great that many of you had counselling after you left the borg as this has helped you to make sense of it all and to fill that gap with reason and understanding. Well done to you. :) For those who had counselling when a JW, it seems to me that they view counselling sessions as a way to vent their feelings. They know that if they speak about such things to an elder (who would socialy take on the role of counsellor) they risk being disfellowshipped. I guess bottling up these feelings for so long makes things worse.
Isnt it disgusting how the Watchtower has trapped millions of people in their own minds?
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Lol at Awake quote about gayz!
by TimothyT inare you a member of the homosexual community?
) can you say that you have honestly found satisfaction and fulfillment in that way of life?
(being true to myself has brought me great happiness yes.
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This course 'can lead to cynicism'!
Thats right... that is exactly what it has led the WTS to be of this issue - negative, distrustful, and disparaging.
What a bad example they are for us to follow. I think i personaly should be more open and accepting of others than they are, after all thats what a proper Christian does. :)