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  Dateline? - When Will That Be Broadcasted?

  by Explorer in

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  hi to all members of this forum.

  i was reading the posts regarging the dateline news article on the wt, and could not help to notice how enthusiatic some of you are about the outcome of that.

  i would like to watch the program too, but don't have any clue as to when that is scheduled to show.

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  lisaBObeesa

  Dear Explorer,

  No one is sure when the program will air. Keep watching this board and your TV guide. The feeling is that it will air this fall.

  --LisaBobeesa
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  I Said Goodbye

  by Farkel in

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  my father was rushed by ambulance from his rest home to st. marks hospital in salt lake city, utah friday, but i only just heard about it.

  i received a call from the floor nurse and she told me he is not expected to live.

  his lungs are filled fill up with fluid and are continuing to fill u with more fluid: he has pneumonia.

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  ((((((((Farkel)))))))
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  Irate email

  by D wiltshire in

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  below is a email i received today.

  the person doen't know me except from i think randy watter web site where i post my appeal letter to the body of elders on which i left my email address.

  i never told her i wasn't df but she gets facts confussed alot.. anyway i sent the post on barbra anderson from our site to her you might find it interesting so i'm posting it below.. .

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  Dear Neighbor (AKA D Wilt)

  It is interesting to watch how people FREAK out when presented with things that are dangerous to their belief system. It is absolute panic that you can 'hear' in this woman's 'voice.' Only she doesn't know it is panic...

  --LisaBobeesa
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  Greastest wastes

  by joelbear in

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  not counting your personal regrets, what was the greatest waste of life and talent you ran across in the organization.. i have 2:.

  1. a guy who was a brilliant grand master chess player who gave it up when he became a witness.. 2. a beautiful young lady that i dated (the last i dated) who gave up a scholarship to julliard school for music to study opera and who was working as a bank teller.. can people be prosecuted for murdering dreams?.

  hugs.

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  lisaBObeesa

  #1 My best friend in the Org as kid, 4th genneration JW....she learned to read when she was 2. She got straight "A's" all through school. She graduated with something like a 4.5 gpa. She is one of the smartest people I have ever met. An amazing mind. Every year in high school she was voted president of the Honor Society, but had to turn it down. When she graduated, she turned down full, 4 year scholarships to several schools, including MIT. She had not even applied for these scholarships...the schools came looking for her.

  She became a pioneer after she graduated, and I think she still is.

  ---LisaBobeesa
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  risk taking

  by joelbear in

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  well, i'm getting closer and closer to turning my life upside down and breaking away from my 43 years of conservative living.

  any risk experiences out there?.

  the risk i want to take is leaving banking, living a much more bohemiam life, maybe work as a waiter or bartender or something, go to school, travel, work on my furniture art, write, read, live.. aaaack.

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  lisaBObeesa

  Dear Joel,

  Can I tell you my story? No?

  But I must!

  I had a very stable job and two kids and a husband out of work. I didn't make a lot of money, but enough to just get by. I did not like my job at all, but felt trapped. I had no life, no freedom, but I had a paycheck and health insurance.

  One day I realized I was going to be poor the rest of my life. I cried a little over it, and then decided that from that moment on, I was going to lead the best damn life a poor person could!

  It wasn't long before I realized that since I was going to be poor forever, I might as well work in a job I liked while I was being poor!

  It was so hard to get up the guts to put in my notice at work. I had worked at this job my entire adult life. There was so much fear involved. Not only that, but all of my co-workers told me I was crazy! But I hung on to a couple thoughts: #1 I was SURE this was the right thing to do, #2 If things didn't work out, I could always go back to the crappy job I hated. Hanging on to these two thoughts for dear life, I went to my boss, and put in my notice.

  It was the best thing I ever did. As soon as I put in my notice, a huge weight seemed to be lifted off my shoulders. I felt so good! I felt like I had some power in my life. I felt liberated. It was only a matter of days before I found a job in the field I had always wanted to work in. I swear, it was meant to be. It has only been a couple of years, and I make more money, have fun everyday, make a difference in people’s lives, and get every summer off. It is so much more than I ever hoped for. A job ½ this good would keep me quite happy.

  I used to always make choices based on "What is the safest?" Now I make choices based on quality of life.

  For me, taking the risk was the best thing that I ever did.

  --LisaBobeesa
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  get a life -- 10 facts

  by joelbear in

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  i thought it would be interesting for people to just post a few things about themselves so we can get to know each other just a bit.. try posting 10 facts about your life.. joel.

  1. i was born and raised in south georgia.. 2. my favorite subject in school was math.. 3. i was in the fulltime service (bethel and pioneer) for 4 years.. 4. my favorite color is blue.. 5. mitch and i have been together over 12 years.. 6. we live in a suburb of atlanta georgia.. 7. we love to eat out and have friends over for dinner and board games.. 8. the only sport i was ever any good at is tennis.. 9. my favorite tv show of all time is the simpsons.. 10. we are both naturists and wish we could lay on the beach naked every day.

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  10 things about me:

  1. I am 32, married for 10 years to an amazing guy, and we have two great kids: a 9-year-old boy and a 4-year-old boy.

  2. I think ‘at-risk’ teenagers are very cool people.

  3. I want to move to Kaua’i. I have a coconut tree growing in my house so I can see a piece of Hawaii everyday.

  4. I have the best mom in the entire world, and I feel very sorry for the rest of you because she is not your mom!

  5. I believe people with learning disabilities don’t have disabilities at all, they just learn differently. And I think schools have a responsibility to teach them everything that they teach every other kid.

  6. I was a JW teenager in the 80’s. My favorite song was “Dear God” by XTC. My favorite book was “The Chosen” (about a boy brought up in a strict Hassidic Jewish home), and my favorite move was “The Life of Brian.” I never got over missing the senior prom.

  7. I do not curl my hair or wear make-up and I choose my clothes based on how comfortable they are.

  8. I still want to be a punk rock girl, but in reality I was listening to Lyle Lovett in my car today.

  9. My belief systems, earliest to latest: JW, doubting JW, non-JW trying to lead double life to keep my family, atheist, agnostic, believer in God of my own understanding, Christian.

  10. Now my favorite songs are impossible to number. My favorite books are “The Joy Luck Club” and “I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings”, and my favorite movies are “Shadowlands”, “The Truman Show” and “Les Miserables, Live in Concert.”

  11. I think Joel is a really cool guy! And he made a really cool thread that I enjoyed reading!
  --LisaBobeesa
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  The naive JW and the naive apostate.

  by dmouse in

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  im sure you have heard comments like these from naive jws:.

  the society never said that armageddon would come in 1975, it was just a few brothers who went over the top.

  (so you dont remember the watchtower article why are you looking forward to 1975?

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  I was actually starting to hope that maybe the pedophile issue was going to make a difference to some of my loved ones, in addition to changing a horrible policy in the Borg.

  Naive indeed. It all came crashing down on me yesterday when I read Tina's post about how the latest WT redefines loyalty as defending the Org in it’s time of ‘misfortune and distress.’ That is basically what it says.

  That's when I realized that the Org is already one step ahead. They already are getting the troops ready, already telling them what they should think when they hear the prase, "JWs protect pedophiles."

  That was depressing when I thought about it. But then I thought, how can we take back the advantage? How can we open the most eyes? If we wanted to be one step ahead of the WT, what would we be doing?

  Thoughts?
  -LisaBobeesa
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  Loyalty to Org and jah WT 9/1/01

  by Tina in

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  did anyone who received this wt ,notice that loyalty was only extended to the org, marriage mates and family 'who are believers' the rest of you moms and dads sisters and brothers,etc.

  you're out in the cold.. the article is titled,'what does it mean to be loyal?'....

  is this damage control?

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  lisaBObeesa

  "It [loyalty] is intervention on behalf of someone suffering misfortune or distress. It is demonstration of friendship...It includes the idea of loving attachment along with the taking of positive action so as to benefit others" - Pg. 20 "

  From this quote, we can see the Org defining loyalty as sticking by, AND DEFENDING the Org when they are attacked in the media and in the courts.

  They are getting the R&F ready for Dateline, etc, I am sure of it.

  It sounds like this is the entire purpose of the article. Food at the proper time indeed.

  They had a similar article a few years ago, but I don't think that this was their definition of loyalty back then.

  Interesting how this article seems to be talking a lot about love. Connecting loyalty with love. So if someone you love molests someone you should defend(be loyal to)them, because that is love. Forget about loving the victims. They arn't your family, you don't know them. What have they ever done for you to get your loyalty? ("If loving kindness is demonstrated toward you, then the same can be expected in return. Loyalty is repaid in kind" - Pg. 22)

  I can't wait to read the whole article. Hum, where am I gonna get it?

  --LisaBobeesa
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  Sad. Very, very, sad.

  by outcast in

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  http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000098

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  lisaBObeesa

  I will never forget that day, when I went out to mow my lawn and Armageddon started. That was quite a day!

  At first, I couldn’t believe it. But then when God started smiting people left and right, I knew this was it! I ran joyously into the house to gather up my children so we could start getting ready for the big Post Armageddon party that was going to be at the Kingdom Hall. I figured I might as well start getting them all ready, since it takes forever to get kids ready! How strange to realize that NOW I really would have forever!

  Once the kids were cleaned up and dressed like JWs, we went outside to begin the walk to the Kingdom Hall, and to the enjoy the sites of Armageddon that we had all been waiting so long to see! The kids were excited because we would finally get to see our next-door neighbors, the Mormons, dead. And I was excited because maybe they would have some good stuff in their house that we could use.

  When we passed their house, however, we could see, to our disappointment, that they were still alive. They were watching us from their window, and the father was motioning for us to come in out of Armageddon. HA! Doesn’t he realize WE are safe?

  Once we got to the Kingdom Hall, we were surprised to see no one else there and the Kingdom Hall burned to the ground. Amazingly, the charred remains of the Kingdom Hall had fallen in such a way to spell out the words, “YOU WERE WRONG!” Wow, I thought. That’s weird. I wonder where everyone else is?
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  FRONT PAGE NEWS!!!!!!!!!! Give Elder a Call..

  by coult9056 in

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  http://www.lafayettejc.com/news0824/0824l06.shtml .

  james day, a local elder in lafayette, indiana is in the paper again.

  he has started a motivational business called "rhythmism!".

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  lisaBObeesa

  "Does this brother live in a van down by the river??"

  ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  That is spot on!!!!!

  --LisaBobeesa