I always find it useful to complete their 'theme' sentences:
Safeguard your heart... by doing what we tell you
Safeguard your mind... by doing what we tell you
Safeguard your conscience ... by doing what we tell you
But since 2003, EVERY single convention theme can be turned into a sentance by adding "by doing what we tell you" to it:
Interesting point!
They really are targeting WHO YOU ARE INSIDE. Creepy!
SUPER creepy.
i have been diagnosed with complex ptsd by my therapist due to events of abandonment and abuse as a child.
the cult experience of being raised as one of jehovah's witness was a major factor.
i think that the sparlock video and the conti case has brought emotional flashbacks to some of us here, so i wanted to post information that i have found helpful.
Wow. Thank you for posting this.
Wow.
I have some much to think about. Talk about spot-on...
Just...wow.
on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
What was? Are you able to read my messages? No, so why the stupid comment.
Are we supposed to know about your messages? No, so why the stupid comment to Mrsjones.
he used common sense but was fired.why.
because the company he worked for.
said "you must follow our guidelines or be fired".
It is very sad that some people can't see that a LIFE is more important than a RULE.
Of COURSE you break a rule to save a life. How is that even a question?
30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.
i am passing this on.
cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.
Is the issue that they didn't 'notify' the congregation
or
is the issue that they required the abuse be kept secret?
my sister sent me this link this morning and listed on there are names of ''known'' apostates!
i made the list yey!
so did my nine year old daughter lol!
I think we need to send them links to more apostate sites so they can make a more comprehensive list.
on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
Your grand emotive essays are a lovely read for the emotionally unstable/stupid. But I am afraid it still will not work with me, you see I think for myself and see for myself.
Nice logical rebuttal, there.
Basically I refuse to believe that the Wt land is a paedophile paradise, good people such as my parents and many many others would not be part of it, even if there was a whiff of JW policies encouraging abuse.
I dont know how much simpler I can explain myself.
That really does sum it up, people.
He refuses to believe that the JWs have set up rules and procedures that have created a paradise for paedophiles in the org. He refuses.
We have wasted our time showing him evidence. Maybe someday, something will break through the denial.
Fleaman, most JWs/good people like your parents and you don't know about these policies and procedures (that we have shown you proof of) that create a paradise for peadophiles, but if they DID know, then of course they would refuse to be a part of it.
There are good people in the Catholic Church who didn't know anything about child abuse or the protection of molesters.
There are good people at Penn State who didn't know anything about the child abuse or the protection of the molester.
And there are good people in the JWs who don't know anything about the child abuse or the protection of the molesters.
That is the whole point! These things are KEPT SECRET!
But now YOU know.
on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
The JW policies protect the abuser and the abuser's 'rights' over protecting children = "pedophile paradise"
The JW policies that require everyone who knows about abuse to be silent about it = "pedophile paradise"
The org being a "Pedophile paradise" doesn't mean there are more of them in the Org, it means the JW's make a perfect 'paradise' for pedophiles where they can re-offend many, many times with little or no consequence. (although there might be more pedophiles roaming about the org than other places just because fewer of them are prosecuted there, but there is no proof of that yet, I don't think...)
on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
fleaman said:
Sorry, but im struggling to see what is wrong with the advice given?
I have not read this whole thread but....
...Back in 2003 I got a professional opinion of the advice in the 'Great Teacher' book...She thought some of it was very bad and some of it was good....Overall, she said the pages I asked her to read were " Totally inappropriate" for children .
Here is what I reported back then:
"I will tell you a little about her (the therapist): She is a well respected member of the community and runs a moderate size local not-for-profit organization that cares for children in the community who have been abused, have been through trauma or have other needs for support.She and her organization also work with parents, couples and individuals.In her separate, private practice, she also sees numerous children and adults who have been abused, and has been in private practice since 1977.
"I asked her to review the material because while Ithought it was terrible,I very much wanted a professional opinion because I have many biases against the WTBTS.
"After reading the first complete paragraph on page 170, she said, “But God doesn’t always protect His children.”
"After reading the second paragraph she noted how they made a big deal over ‘the opposite sex’ when defining correct adult sex.
"After reading the third paragraph, she said, “This is totally inappropriate as it implies that the little kid is going to turn into a pervert or something.Not good at all.”
"After reading the fourth paragraph, she look disgusted about many things but only said, “Interesting how they keep tying Satan and demons into the whole thing,” (shaking her head.)She said it was very good that it says clearly that the abuse is wrong. (the last sentence on page 170.)
"She said nothing at all about the first paragraph on page 171.
"Regarding the second paragraph on 171, she said, “Many, many 5- or 6-year-olds simply cannot say, ‘stop that!’”Some would be able to do this, but many cannot.Especially if it is their father or someone very close to them that they love.”Then she said, “It is good that it says the child should tell on the abuser no matter what."
"When she was done reading she mentioned again that she was very disturbed by the third paragraph on page 170, and handed the scans back to me.
"I asked her if a child had been abused and then read this if it would make the child feel that the abuse was their own fault and she said, “Exactly!”
"I asked her if all in all she agreed that these pages were inappropriate for children and she said, “Absolutely!Totally inappropriate!”
how is it possible for a jw to go to the dc and not know about sparlock?.
They have no kids so they didn't get the video and have not seen it?
