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  A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

  by SecretSlaveClass in

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  let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

  my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

  in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

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    Giordano
    Enjoyed your observations greatly. And your sister how did she fare?

    
    
    Very well actually. She's happily married with two amazing daughters and three granddaughters and is a certified draftsman on the town's Board of Planning and Development. She was determined to be nothing like our mom and is an outstanding mother and grandmother.
    
    

    Londo111I agree that the younger a person can wake up and become independent the better of they will be, especially before getting dunked. Unfortunately, not everyone is as fortunate. Many wake up in midlife and sometimes later, and by then, they are deeply enmeshed with their social network of friends and family. It’s not as easy for these to step away. There is not a simple one-size-fits-all path for everyone who wakes up.

    
    Absolutely! If you can get out early in life it's a huge advantage, but getting out at any stage of one's life is better than being chained to the Org for an entire lifespan. Most definitely every case carries with it unique elements that must be considered and dealt with carefully. I have to believe that the vast majority who are genuinely looking to get out will find their exit in good time, hopefully with minimal collateral damage.
    

    umbertoecho

    A very interesting account and well said. I didn't consider your' first post to be smug although some here have endured a lot of grief in gaining mental and emotional freedom.
    Thank you for the clarifications though

    
    

    Thank you. I throughly enjoy reading your postings and you do so much for this community. In my short time here it has occurred to me that you are without question one of the corner stones of the community.

    
    

    PaintedToeNail
    

    SSC- Your account of life growing up in apartheid South Africa is riveting. Many years ago, I remember hearing an experience at the KH that told of the Borg in SA. Of course that example indicated that all the brothers loved each other equally regardless of their race, it was the secular authorities who wouldn't let them all associate with each other...it sounds like they didn't want to associate with each other in the first place.

    
    

    I'm pleased you found it interesting, thank you. As far as black and white JWs being together at KImgdom Halls went, I had heard of accounts where this happened but never personally witnessed any. The only time I ever saw all races together were at assemblies. I have no idea how the black JWs felt about their white brothers and sisters, but other than my father I never met a single white JW who ever spoke respectfully or kindly of the black brothers and sisters. I'm sure there were some, I just never met them.

    P.S. Sorry about the dislike, I meant to hit like but again my sausage fingers messed up on my small iPhone.
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  Steve2:7 minutes ago
  

  Everyone who comes to realize TTATT has one thing on their side that JWs believe they themselves don't have: time.

  Great point Steve, I had never considered that.
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  JWs nearly killed my mother

  by cookiemaster in

  1. jw
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  the past week has been hell for me.

  my mother started feeling ill and we went to seek medical assistance.

  we live in the mountains and the nearest large hospital is about 150 kms away.

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  BRAVO SIR!! You are a hero and hopefully an inspiration and example of common sense to those on the fence about accepting blood transfusions.

  Typical Org, "Do what we say or face a JC. Oh what's that you can't afford it? Well youll have to pray and figure it out. Oh she's dying? That's ok if you both stay in the truth you'll reunite in Paradise, don't worry about it, think of what a glorious moment it will be when the two of you reunite!"

  So happy you persisted and she changed her mind! I crave positive stories with a powerful lesson!
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  Having One Of Those "Pondering Disassociation" Days :(

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are a lot of things that make me have days like this, the utter embarrassment of being are part of a cult that protects child abusers, that enforces emotional brutality through shunning, and that lies constantly.

  the lying i can tolerate, the world is built on bullshit, i have a high lie tolerance.

  i can ignore it if it has no effect on me etc.

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  FMF:

  You're a good guy and you certainly don't deserve being stuck between a rock and a hard place. I hope things don't stay this way for you much longer.
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  A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

  my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

  in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

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  Xanthippe28 minutes ago

  
  

  I don't have anything to do with them but I wouldn't put the phone down on them if they contacted me because they may want to leave the cult one day. There is little chance of this but they know where I am.

  Completely understand and I feel the same way.

  My life is good. When I left I got my degree and eventually a job I like. My daughter is an intelligent, ethical, compassionate young woman of twenty now, free to enjoy her life without cult influences. She is enjoying university and we have a great time travelling to different countries together.

  
  

  That's fantastic, it gives me a big ol' grin inside and outside!

  
  
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  Petition for U.S. AG investigation.

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  not sure if anything will come of this.

  but i signed it.. https://www.change.org/p/united-states-attorney-general-investigate-the-watchtower-society-of-jehovah-s-witnesses-re-child-sexual-abuse?recruiter=363165656&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink.

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  I can't find it but I did sign a few others though. That is a fantastic site, I wonder how influential it is?
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  A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

  my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

  in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

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  millie21019 minutes ago

  You have lived a life that is unique in many ways SSC.
  I enjoy hearing about it and seeing things from your perspective.
  I think of us ex JWs as being a rare group. Touchy, sensitive, beautiful, wise and all at different stages.

  Thank you millie, I enjoy your perspective very much myself as I do just about everyone's on this forum. I've learned a boatload in the short time I've been part of this community. Thank you everyone!

  If the rest of the world is like a piano or maybe an organ, than we are like the carillion bells of humanity.

  I love it!
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  Starting to get grilled by parents

  by Anonymous17 in

  1. jw
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  so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

  i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

  they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

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  stan livedeath6 hours agoyeah--jesus didnt got baptised till he was 30--and he was perfect.
  so imperfect men need to wait a lot longer.

  Great point!
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  Starting to get grilled by parents

  by Anonymous17 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my parents had a meeting with me to talk about me not progressing spiritualy as i should be.

  i felt like i was being interrogated in a nice way.

  they want to know who i talk to and if my association at work good.

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  Anonaymous17:

  What everyone here has said is great advice. I will only add that your parents seem like good people which makes decisions a lot harder for you. As mentioned before, take it slow, weigh your current situation and adjust accordingly. Reading everything you can to help convey your feelings and thought process for when the time comes to make your decision known is highly recommended. As previously advised, your most immediate concert is to avoid baptism at all costs!
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  A word of advice clining to their persecutors ...

  by SecretSlaveClass in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me start off by saying i do not presume to have the answers, i am merely offering advice.. i will preface this posting with this, cutting a long story short:.

  my sister was raped by a popular jw lad wh's dad happen to be a rock star elder.

  in the attempt to fight him off his face was covered with scratches and it was reported to the police ( instead of rape he was sentenced on the lesser charges of sexual battery and assault) but he confessed to having violent, consentual sex.

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  punkofnice

  
  Agreed. It may not be immediate and may take planning but there is life outside the dark tower.

  Yes planning is super important. I was fortunate in that I had saved a lot of money from part time jobs while still at school and was able to walk straight into the security of the military, which of course is not an option for a lot of folks.

  
  

  
  

  breakfast of champions

  
  Sounds like you had a whack job mother like I did. You were fortunate to get away young. . . . I hung around for years, and it wasn't until my wife pointed out how I was being manipulated left and right by her that I finally saw what was going on and cut ties.

  At least you're free now and have a smart wife to share your freedom with. Happy to read that!

  
  

  Xanthippe

  
  I just won't play anymore. I say hello at funerals and then I move away. I don't write, email or phone. Let them play their manipulation games with each other, I'm not a little mouse to be mauled by their claws until I die.

  It's sad an inherently cruel. I'm sorry you had to endure that for so long. Have you completely cut ties with them? How is your life now?