c'mon, 'fess up.
shouldn't you be workin'?
Great Post BBoy,
Teeheee......yeah caught!!!
But everone who has posted on this thread gave me a great laugh!!!
Larc!!!! POT?????? hahahahahahaha
Nah.....I do a lot of work at home and can sneak into the study to the PC when I have a bit of a break.
Better than living in another time zone when I should ne getting my beauty sleep....Dang it!!...the beauty sleep never worked anyway!!
Ana
is it?...regarding the verse in james i think..where it speaks about.
going to the older men of the congergation for "healing".
just wondering what opinions are out there regarding this.
Nytelecom,
I can only answer for myself as I do not believe in organised religion and I never forsee that for the future.
Confessing is to my mind "owning up".
I feel that my own conscience is my best guide. If I have made a mistake or hurt someone I will always approach the person and attempt to make amends. If my conscience is clear there is nothing to confess either to myself or anyone/anything else.
For me.....it all rests on my conscience and not a superior being.
Ana
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
dr albert ellis has identified 10 irrational beliefs that can influence us and contribute to over reacting in specific situations.. knowing them is the first step in taking back your personal power and not becoming a casuality of such irrational thought.these screwy beliefs tend to make us 'awfulize,think in terms of 'they should,i should' and dysfunctional rationalizations.. 1. worrying too much about what other people think of you.
excessive worrying creates a strong fear of rejection.. these folks will ignore the self to please others or will display this insecurity by attacking others in order to stay distant and detached.. 2. i must not fail at important tasks,and if i do it's terrible and i can't stand it.. 3.people and things should always turn out the way i want them to-and if they don't it's awful,terrible and horrible,and i can't stand it.. 4.if any of the first 3 bad events happens(if im not liked or respected,if i fail,or if things don't turn out as i'd like-then i'll always blame someone for it!
they acted wrongly,as they should not have done,and they are rotten people for acting in that terrible way!.
((((((((((Tina))))))))
Thanks for the very timely post.......
But wow.....I could see a few things I need to work on.
Reminders like these can be very powerful and thought provoking.
Ana
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
skeptics of the world, unite!.
as i slowly and deliberately nursed a nonalcoholic cup of coca-cola tonight, something motivated me to pull out my notes on infinitism and share them with you good folks here.
infinitism is a philosophical school of thought that advocates the epistemological "suspension of judgment.
Hi Duns,
Nah.....no jokes this time
Infinitism is like foundationalism in holding that there are features of the world, perhaps non-normative features, that make a belief a reason. Not just any old belief is a reason. Infinitism is unlike foundationalism because infinitism holds that there are no ultimate, foundational reasons. Every reason stands in need of another reason. This can be stated in a principle -- the Principle of Avoiding Arbitrariness (PAA).
My ten cents,
Ana
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
hi teejay,.
you asked me a question in the thread started by farkel.
re: i'm sick and tired of this aug 12, 2001 4:40:58 pm .
Hi TeeJay,
You asked me a question in the thread started by Farkel
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Re: I'm Sick and Tired of This Aug 12, 2001 4:40:58 PM
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Ladonna,
Question: for whom should empathy be shown? Judgement at Nuremburg deals with a painfully horrible period in Germany's (the world's) history and its aftermath. Considering that time, should the nazis been shown empathy? The Jews? The Gypsies?
In any given point in time, to whom should we show empathy?
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TJ, I have posted this answer on a different thread as I do not feel comfortable that my Quote from the movie "Judgment at Nuremburg" may be misconstrued in any way and by any persons to mean I was referring to Farkel as being a Jew or a Nazi.
I merely used a quotation and stated where I had heard it. The relevance of the subject matter in regards to the subject matter of the movie to Farkel is NIL
Being half Russian Jew myself I have great empathy for the Jews. On the otherhand I do have empathy with the Germans of today that have to live with what was done by generations that preceeded them.
I do not deem myself to be a judge or jury. I hated what happened to the Jews, and to this day find it distressing to see footage from the holocaust.
But furthermore, I fail to see where you are linking a mere quote I made to Farkel.....please correct me if I am wrong and this is not what you are inferring. If I am wrong, I apologize in advance.
But TeeJay, isn't empathy a natural human emotion? I do not for one minute accept that you never feel empathy. You have shown that by your thread to Emmyrose.
Maybe, we need to show empathy whenever we can. As has been pointed out......we never can fully know what is going on in others' lives.
But in Farkel's thread he stated what he was suffering. Was that not enough??
Kind Regards,
Ana
To any that are wondering.............................................
I state here that I do not under any circumstances wish to be part of a Nazi thread. This is not what this is intended for.
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
i have been pondering an issue for quite some time.
my parents have known nothing else but the "truth" for all of their lives.. recently they went away on holiday with a host of other jw's and had a really fun time.. at times they show great "spiritual" weakness that i have keenly observed, however, i do plant "dity little apostate seeds" but am questioning what type of life they would have if they were not part of the wtbts.. they would lose all of their children except myself...i have 5 sisters...and they would have no friends.. i feel very sad to think that i really could bring about a great loneliness in what could be their "golden years".. no one hates the wtbts as much as those of us that see it for the evil that it is, but i am really struggling with my conscience over this one.. if they were not emotionally tied to me, maybe i would feel differently; i just can't.. any suggestions???.
ana.
Gsark,
Thankyou for your kind words, I always enjoy chatting to you in the "live chat". You are so warm and full of wisdom and you make me laugh which is really great. My whole family has been turned upside down this year with deaths, accidents ect, and it has left me feeling a little low and at a stage where I am reasessing my position as to how I really feel about proving to my parents that what they believe in is an evil cult.
I really don't think I can leave them with nothing at this stage of their lives...they are both 75.
Warm Hugs Gsark,
Ana
Simon....,
What would some of us do without this DB? Thankyou so much for the effort and time you and your wife must put in to this for the benefit of all of us here.
I understand where you are coming from with your parents, I know mine would feel like they had failed life.
I know it would be better if they didn't waste the rest of their lives and I am almost 90% certain that if they really knew about all the sexual abuse that went on inside they would get out themselves.
I just don't really know if it is up to me to judge their life at their age as wasting the rest of it.
Warm thoughts to you and yours,
Ana
Francoise,
I really enjoyed your post. Like always you show such wisdom. I enjoy all of your posts that I read......when you said..
Quote:
Someone pointed out to me once that unless we are prepared to fully replace that which we cause to be gone in a person's spiritual life, we should think twice about causing that thing to be gone.
End Quote.
This really got me thinking as to "how" I could possibly replace all that they have now. I can't and won't pretend to be able to.
Part of my heart also says " what right do I have? "
My mother does not go out on the doors.....she has always been far too introverted for door to door work and my father seldom does.
They hardly go to meetings and yet they somehow retain a network of friends from within.
Like you I feel "what is the use?" Part of me does anyway...
I tend more to your argument of it not being a loving thing to do to the oldies.
My sisters who are all around my age, I work like the devil himself on....one sister is actually listening.
I am fairly sure that my parents know I am what the organisation calls an "apostate", but they turn a blind eye as they have shunned me before and my mother couldn't handle it.....so therefore, I saw that as an act of love on her part.
But any youngsters........let's get them out.
Thankyou Francoise, your opinion made a lot of sense and it was kind of you to respond.
Ana
i have been pondering an issue for quite some time.
my parents have known nothing else but the "truth" for all of their lives.. recently they went away on holiday with a host of other jw's and had a really fun time.. at times they show great "spiritual" weakness that i have keenly observed, however, i do plant "dity little apostate seeds" but am questioning what type of life they would have if they were not part of the wtbts.. they would lose all of their children except myself...i have 5 sisters...and they would have no friends.. i feel very sad to think that i really could bring about a great loneliness in what could be their "golden years".. no one hates the wtbts as much as those of us that see it for the evil that it is, but i am really struggling with my conscience over this one.. if they were not emotionally tied to me, maybe i would feel differently; i just can't.. any suggestions???.
ana.
Hi All,
I have been pondering an issue for quite some time. My parents have known nothing else but the "truth" for all of their lives.
Recently they went away on holiday with a host of other JW's and had a really fun time.
At times they show great "spiritual" weakness that I have keenly observed, however, I do plant "dity little apostate seeds" but am questioning what type of life they would have if they were not part of the WTBTS.
They would lose all of their children except myself...I have 5 sisters...and they would have no friends.
I feel very sad to think that I really could bring about a great loneliness in what could be their "golden years".
No one hates the WTBTS as much as those of us that see it for the evil that it is, but I am really struggling with my conscience over this one.
If they were not emotionally tied to me, maybe I would feel differently; I just can't.
Any suggestions???
Thanks,
Ana
I will defend, to your death, my right to my opinion.
i just wanted to let you know of a simple way you can help in the fight to raise public awareness of the problem of child abuse.. here is a url where you can purchase a mint green ribbon pin.
it is an outward symbol of your support of those who are victims of, and fighters against child molestation.. please go here: .
: http://www1.minn.net/~hmm/mgr_cyber_main.htm.
Dedalus,
Oprah would eat the Borg for breakfast..........great idea..!!!
Ana
for those who chowed down for years on the watchtower's "spiritual food" (who was that talking about schit on a schingle in an earlier post?
) and thought you were getting christianity, and have now left the table of jehovah-of-the-watchtower... .
and purged what you consumed.... and still haven't given up on christianity - (hey, jesus did warn of counterfeits).
Pleaase Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the movie "Shadowlands" the true story of "Lewis"?
If so............see it.......a bit of a weepy though.
Ana
on april 2nd i purchased the domain name www.do-not-call.org .
a few weeks later i posted a comment on the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3941&site=3.
it was titled 'can you stop the preaching work?'.
Nicolaou,
Count me in.......great work, great idea
Ana
