The WT explanation is b/c Jeehovah was giving time to Lord Satan mislead the angels. Was a time for test to the little angels. In 1914 Lord Satan was evicted from heaven to the earth, just like the Silver Surfer.
I think the lesson behind the myth is to portrait Jahoovah as a patient father/boss.
and of course, i had some fun with them... an older, brunette woman who obviously dyes her hair and could stand to lose a bit of weight, and a slim blonde teenage girl - probably around 15 - 17.... i started out by asking them if they knew how old the bible was.... .
(and unfortunately, i think i demonstrated that i wouldn't make a very good "undercover" bible study prospect... .
but they didn't even know how old - young - the bible was!!.
My method when they knock at my door is to ask why they don't believe in going to heaven. Then they say something about the 144k and the "great crowd". So I ask to them to read rev. 19:6 and ask to them to confirm this great crowd are the ones who will live in earth. They will say YES. Then ask to them read the rev. 19:1 and ask again where are these "great crowd". Enjoy and have some fun with they responses about it.
i just wanted to take a survey.
let's not let this get into the same old same old debate of atheism vs belief.
just respond with "atheist" or "believer" or "maybe god exists".
Nihilist. And a trinitarian atheist. I refuse to give any attention to a unitarian god.
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***Historical atheism in the bible:
The senseless one has said in his heart: “There is no Jehovah.”
***Modern antitype atheism:
The wise one has said to the world:
"There is no effing Jehovah or something like that".
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What about nihilism? I'm a nihilist, even if dooog exists nothing would change in the absolute way.
this question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
The WT also mess with the resurrection doctrine.
The bible says about a resurrection in the flesh (same dead body) in the last day when they'll go to heaven in transformed bodies.
Nothing about a resrrection in a earthly paradise.
The whole WT doctrine has a lot of philosophical flaws in a resurrection with another new body. Simply put, the WT doctrine is about clones.
this question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
Not speaking about the WT double standard about the pagan origins...
In deluge stuff all the common pagan myths are a good point to show that it must be true.
In trinity stuff the same thing are a reason to accept the devil control over the mankind.
this question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
I like some "illustrations" about the trinity like the time and it's three forms: past, present and future.
All of them are distinct but all of them are time.
You cannot talk about past, present or future without talk about time.
Also you cannot talk about holy spirit, jesus and the father without talk about dog, ops, god.
The main issue about jesus saying the father was greater it's a fail, 'cause the jesus was a diminished form of the trinity son. Jesus it's like an avatar of the son while on earth so he could talk about the father being greater than him.
this question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
But in relation to trinity I can say I'm an trinitarian atheist. LOL
I think the trinity it's a superior philosophical concept, and seems to me the unitarians never gets the trinity concept right. The WT does not talk about the mainstream trinity doctrine but always build a strawman from it.
The trinity doctrine it's not what the WT says.
this question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
It's very hard to get a unique conclusion only having the sola scriptura thing.
The bible it's not a self consistent book so we can get several views on it.
In a book full of contradictions what can we take as criteria? The majority of texts about something? Like what? Up to 50% of texts that say something wins the other texts that says the opposite?
I think (as an atheist) the catholics have the right thing in consider the bible just as a PART of the whole christianism.
No one can take anything out the bible but nonsense.
