Posts by SatoriCE

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Earthquakes....

by SatoriCE in

the topic of earthquakes marking the "last days" was brought up with interactions i have had with a few different witnesses.

can someone please explain the exact significance of earthquakes that jw's have?!

can you please also include any links to actual facts that contradict their views of earthquakes.

SatoriCE

Great advise, thank you Black Sheep! We actually live in California where the San Andreas Fault is!!!

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Earthquakes....

by SatoriCE in

the topic of earthquakes marking the "last days" was brought up with interactions i have had with a few different witnesses.

can someone please explain the exact significance of earthquakes that jw's have?!

can you please also include any links to actual facts that contradict their views of earthquakes.

SatoriCE

Everyone, thank you for all the useful feedback and information!!!!!

Satori

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Earthquakes....

by SatoriCE in

the topic of earthquakes marking the "last days" was brought up with interactions i have had with a few different witnesses.

can someone please explain the exact significance of earthquakes that jw's have?!

can you please also include any links to actual facts that contradict their views of earthquakes.

The topic of earthquakes marking the "last days" was brought up with interactions I have had with a few different Witnesses. Can someone please explain the exact significance of earthquakes that JW's have?! Can you please also include any links to actual facts that contradict their views of earthquakes. Also, any input on how to approach this topic to a Witness without sounding like Satan is using me or anything like that, would be appreciated.

Thank you.

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Two Or More Witnesses Policy Still In Effect For Elders In Child Abuse Cases

by PublishingCult in

despite its assurances to the media reporting on child sex abuse cases, the official wtbts policy on dealing with child molestation in the congregation has not actually changed.

the most recent direction given to congregation elders in dealing with child molestation allegations can be found in the 2010 revised edition of the secret for-elders'-eyes-only manual, shepherd the flock.

this direction is in direct violation of the law regarding how ministers are to handle allegations of child molestation.

SatoriCE

JOJOJONES - Would you please send me a link to that story or let me know where I can find it.

Thank you.

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High Profile Case: Seeking Reinstatement

by headisspinning in

but our situation is very difficult and quite high profile.... i was raised as a jw and my mother was very strict and abusive.

i got baptized at age 14.. my mother actually called on my (present) husband's mom in service.

she was on the initial call resulting in his mom coming in the truth and him being raised in it from about age 8 or 9.. despite a very abusive step-father, he followed his mom's lead and came into the truth.

SatoriCE

Headisspinning - I hope you are still viewing this thread!

My heart goes out to you and your husband. I wanted to approach your situation from a different angle. I am not, nor have I ever been part of the WTS. I have come to know the many layers of it through my involvement with my love who was raised in the WTS and has had much turmoil because of it. I can relate to you in the sense that the man I love was also sexually abused several times; the most horrific time by an elder who is still a Jehovah's Witness in good standing!

Many people here have wonderful advice to give you, although I will have to disagree with a posting regarding adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse. The worst thing to say to a survivor is to tell him/her to move on since it was the past. A person who hasn't healed yet from such a horrible crime committed against them at an innocent age, still deals with PTSD, and is constantly having horrific flashbacks. To say to them that it was the past, they cannot do anything about it and to move on, is like telling many former witnesses to just move on, except worse with survivors. Many of the feelings that develop from sexual abuse, even more so with males, are: depression, anxiety, self hatred, self destructiveness, shame, guilt, powerlessness, helplessness, feelings of of being trapped, etc., just to name a few. Healing and gaining the self power that they lost, is a progression - it takes time, unconditional love, tons of support along with professional help.

If you and your husband decide to go back, it's only a matter of time that your husband will emotionally collapse again due to the WTS adding more of these feelings to an already broken man. Please think about what these added feelings from the WTS may eventually lead him to. I understand your fear of it. but I highly encourage you to do the research on the organisation. All you will come across is overwhelming amounts of evidence. I say this as kindly as I can, if researching the actual evidence didn't hold any truth in it, no JW would be running away from it.

Here are a few links most from an Oprah Winfrey show that took place recently. It revolves around 200 Men of Sexual Abuse coming forward and taking a courageous stand against the painful crime that was committed against them.

Adult Men who were Melosted Come Forward - part one of the show (recommand for both you and and your husband): http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Full-Episode-200-Adult-Men-Who-Were-Molested-Come-Forward-Video

How to Help Your Partner cope with Male Sexual Abuse: http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/How-to-Help-Your-Partner-Cope-with-Male-Sexual-Abuse

Supporters of Sexual Abuse Survivors:http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Supporters-of-Male-Sexual-Abuse-Survivors-Speak-Out-Video/topic/oprahshow

Healing sexual abuse: http://www.oprah.com/oprahshow/Sexual-Abuse-Survivors-First-Steps-Toward-Healing/1

SNAP - Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (applies to any religious figure and if he was abused by one): http://www.snapnetwork.org/

Adult Survivors of Child Abuse (this includes sexual and or physical): http://www.ascasupport.org/

I fully inderstand the pain of loving someone who has gone through such tragedy. I hope that these links will come of some help to you and your loved one.

May Peace, Love, Healing, and Warmth be with You and Your Husband.

Satori

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The Watch Tower Society... ???

by SatoriCE in

hey guys,.

for those who haven't read my first post, i've never been a jehovah's witness.

i did study and attend meetings at one point and have done a lot of research outside of their publications.

SatoriCE

Your welcome 3Mozzies!

MrFreeze - Muse is amazing and YES, many many anti-Witness songs!!!

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The Watch Tower Society... ???

by SatoriCE in

hey guys,.

for those who haven't read my first post, i've never been a jehovah's witness.

i did study and attend meetings at one point and have done a lot of research outside of their publications.

SatoriCE

Hey Guys,

For those who haven't read my first post, I've never been a Jehovah's Witness. I did study and attend meetings at one point and have done a lot of research outside of their publications. Not to mention, am currently trying to get my boyfriend out. He was sexually abused as a child who is now going back to be reinstated after 15 years after initially leaving.

I watched a music video of a band named "Muse" and was suprised how much it describes the WTS! It's my boyfriend's favorite band and I went ahead and emailed him the video with the lyrics hoping and hinting what the WTS really is. Wonder if he caught onto it?! (probably shouldn't have)

Here is the video and lyrics *notice the billboard that says "Building For The Future" at 0:34:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8KQmps-Sog

The paranoia is in bloom, the PR
The transmissions will resume
They'll try to push drugs
Keep us all dumbed down and hope that
We will never see the truth around
(So come on!)

Another promise, another scene, another
A package not to keep us trapped in greed
With all the green belts wrapped around our minds
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined
(So come on!)

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Interchanging mind control
Come let the revolution take its toll if you could
Flick the switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
We should never be afraid to die
(So come on!)

Rise up and take the power back, it's time that
The fat cats had a heart attack, you know that
Their time is coming to an end
We have to unify and watch our flag ascend

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!

They will not force us
They will stop degrading us
They will not control us
We will be victorious

Hey .. hey ... hey .. hey!

-Satori

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has anyone had an experiance with a meduim /clairvoiant ?

by looloo in

when i was studying years ago ,my sistertold me about an experiance she had at her church , the clairvoiant said to another lady present that she had a dead relative present , named them and said "they want you to know they now know the truth" the lady laughed and said "i doubt it she was a jehovahs witness !

" i wish i could go but im not sure if its wrong to go or not as there is someone i would like to know if they are ok , have any of you been to a church like that or is it all rubbish ?.

SatoriCE

* wheather or not your energy is open to theirs in order for them to pick up on things.

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has anyone had an experiance with a meduim /clairvoiant ?

by looloo in

when i was studying years ago ,my sistertold me about an experiance she had at her church , the clairvoiant said to another lady present that she had a dead relative present , named them and said "they want you to know they now know the truth" the lady laughed and said "i doubt it she was a jehovahs witness !

" i wish i could go but im not sure if its wrong to go or not as there is someone i would like to know if they are ok , have any of you been to a church like that or is it all rubbish ?.

SatoriCE

Hello looloo, I would have to agree with feenX. People like to attach fearful labels to things that they do not fully understand. A lot of these clairvoiants/ mediums are using more then 10 % of their brain and are highly tapped into their intuition, being more connected to their sixth sense. Yes, as feenX mentioned, there are many scam artist out there. Test the waters to see what intuitively feels right to the core of you. Don't put two feet fully in and believe what ever a medium tells you. Also, do some research and educate yourself what each person can do. Some of them can only pick up on the past and present situation. Some of them are mediums and can pick up on the future and can also connect with the other side. It also all depends on wheather or not they can your energy is open for them to pick up on things!

Satori