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Watchtower and Communist propaganda

by aqwsed12345 in

have you ever wondered about the similarity of the watchtower-style and communist propaganda?

think about the "years' text" on kingdom halls'walls or catchwords on circuit assemblies.

on communist party assemblies there were a same-type text like "long live the socialism" etc.

aqwsed12345

Have you ever wondered about the similarity of the Watchtower-style and Communist propaganda? Think about the "Years' text" on Kingdom halls'walls or catchwords on circuit assemblies. On communist party assemblies there were a same-type text like "Long live the socialism" etc. Here are sem pictures. Look at the idealised smiling characters, for they are happy to be faithful JWs/communists. In communism there were buzzwords for the enemy like Kulak, imperialist etc. Just like in the WT regime: apostates, opposers, unbelievers...

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2011 Year's Text Announced!

by yknot in

what this i hear?.

bethelites whisperings in my ear?.

what branch?

aqwsed12345

These texts on Kingdom Halls' walls is like catchwords of the old communist party assemblies. On those assemblies there were always some short sentences like "Long live the Soviet friendship!" or "Be faithful to the great marxist party" etc.

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The Doctrine of Hell

by Yizuman in

is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

but this dishonors gods word.

aqwsed12345

Matt. 3:12; Luke 3:17 - John the Baptist said the Lord will burn the chaff with unquenchable fire. This unquenchable fire is the state of eternal separation from God, which the Church has called "hell" for 2,000 years. Some Protestant communities no longer acknowledge the reality of hell.

Matt. 25:41 - Jesus says, "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

Matt. 25:46 - Jesus says, "they will go away into eternal punishment" which is in reference to this eternal fire.

Mark 9:47-48 - Jesus refers to hell as where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. It lasts forever.

2 Thess. 1:6-9 - the angels will come with flaming fire and the disobedient will suffer punishment of eternal destruction. It is important to note that "destruction" does not mean "annihilation," as some Protestant denominations teach. It means eternal exclusion from the presence of God.

Jude 6-7 - the rebelling angels, and Sodom and Gomorrah, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Rev. 14:11 - the worshipers of the beast suffer and the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever.

Rev. 20:10 - they're tormented in the lake of fire and brimstone day and night forever and ever.

Isaiah 33:14 - "Who of us can dwell in the everlasting fire?" This is a reference to hell which is forever.

Isaiah 66:24 - their worm shall not die and their fire shall not be quenched. We cannot fathom the pain of this eternal separation from God.

Jer. 15:14 - in my anger a fire is kindled which shall burn forever. Hell is the proper compliment to the eternal bliss of heaven.

Judith 16:17 - in the day of judgment the Lord will take vengeance on the wicked and they shall weep in pain forever. Hell is a place that sinners have prepared for themselves by rejecting God, who desires all people to be saved in His Son Jesus Christ. God sends no one to hell.

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The Doctrine of Hell

by Yizuman in

is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

but this dishonors gods word.

aqwsed12345

You all should read this book from Stewart Salmond

The Christian Doctrine of Immortality

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Not Saluting The Flag Singing The Nat' Anthem, H

by Celtic in

jw
friends

not saluting the national flag or standing up to sing the national anthem of your particular country, how did this make you feel at school and what were the reactions of your class mates?.

in your jw upbringings, any other funny, weird or mad school time experiences to share, where there seemed great conflicts of interest, and again, how did these make you feel?

with these experiences in mind, how did it shape you into an individual, and finally which specific emotions did you notice within yourselves as you were growing up?.

aqwsed12345

The Watchtower frowns upon civil involvement. JWs are not allowed to vote, join trade unions, salute the flag, or serve in the military. All forms of patriotism and political activity are forbidden, on grounds that these activities are "worldly." The Bible commands no such thing, and advises Christians to be in subjection to civil authorities (Romans 13:1-7). The Apostle Paul even appealed to his Roman citizenship and to Caesar in order to fight an unjust accusation (Acts 21:39, 22:25-29, 25:11). Christians are to be the "salt of the earth" (Mt 5:13). Salt in the ancient world was a preserver. We cannot preserve, let alone transform, the institutions of the world if we withdraw from them. Charles Taze Russell, the JW Founder, would today be disfellowshiped for his view on military service:

There could be nothing against our conscience in going into the army.
(WT, 15 April 1903, 3179-3180 in reprint)

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The Doctrine of Hell

by Yizuman in

is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

but this dishonors gods word.

aqwsed12345

Sheol

This word is used in the Old Testament for the place of the dead . . . In the later Jewish literature we meet with the idea of divisions within Sheol for the wicked and the righteous, in which each experiences a foretaste of his final destiny . . .
(The New Bible Dictionary, J.D. Douglas, editor, Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1962, 518)
The Hebrew word designating the unseen abode of the dead; a neutral word, presupposing neither misery nor happiness.
(Augustus H. Strong, Systematic Theology, Westwood, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1907, 994)
While the word Sheol, does not pointedly refer to a definitive doctrine of endless retribution, but rather to a shadowy existence beyond the grave, it nevertheless reflects the belief in a future and continued existence.
(Merrill C. Tenney, Pictorial Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, rev. ed., 1967, 346)

Hades

The region of departed spirits of the lost (but including the blessed dead in periods preceding the Ascension of Christ) . . . It corresponds to Sheol in the O.T. IN the KJV . . . it has unhappily been rendered "Hell," e.g., Ps. 16:10; or "the grace," e.g., Gen. 37:35 . . . It never denotes the grave, nor is it the permanent region of the lost; in point of time it is, for such, intermediate between decease and the doom of Gehenna. For the condition, see Luke 16:23-31.
(W.E. Vine, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, Old Tappan, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1940; under "Hades")
. . . the nether world, the realm of the dead . . . In the Septuagint the Hebrew Sheol is almost always rendered by this word . . . the infernal regions, a dark and dismal place . . . the common receptacle of disembodied spirits.
(Joseph Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon of the NT, 11)

Gehenna / Hell / The Lake of Fire

. . . It is the loss of all good . . . and the misery of an evil conscience banished from God and from the society of the holy, and dwelling under God's positive curse forever . . . The decisive and controlling element is not the outward, but the inward . . . The figurative language of Scripture is a miniature representation of what cannot be fully described in words . . . the unholiness and separation from God of a guilty and accusing conscience, of which fire and brimstone are symbols . . . the future punishment of the wicked is not annihilation . . . the wicked enter at death upon a state of conscious suffering which the resurrection and the judgment only augment and render permanent.
(Augustus H. Strong, Systematic Theology, Westwood, NJ: Fleming H. Revell, 1907, 1033-1036)

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A site that agrees with 607 BCE

by wannabefree in

while doing research this morning, i came across the following website .... http://www.abc-of-christianity.com/info/740-607-judah.asp.

i can't see a religious affiliation, although i am inclined to think a possible adventist connection.. i could not find a referral to it here, just wondering if anybody has any info on this.

i thought jw's were the only ones who held to the 607 date..

aqwsed12345

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php

http://www.carm.org/1914-ad-607-bc-586-bc-and-jehovahs-witnesses

http://144000.110mb.com/607/index.html

http://www.607v587.com

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'Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism'

by aqwsed12345 in

do somebody know this book?.

robert jay lifton: thought reform and the psychology of totalism.

could you give me some description?

aqwsed12345

Do somebody know this book?

Robert Jay Lifton: Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism

Could you give me some description? How these mind control techniques is applicable to the Watchtowe-system?

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According to fundi Christians, where did people go when they died pre-ransom?

by sabastious in

before jesus offered the ransom, where did people go when they died?.

-sab.

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The Limbo of the Fathers (limbus patrum) was the abode of people who, before Jesus' Resurrection, had died in the friendship of God, but had to wait for Christ to open heaven's gates.

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The Doctrine of Hell

by Yizuman in

is the doctrine of hell a hindrance or a help in witnessing?

many evangelicals are ashamed of this biblical doctrine, viewing it as a blemish to be covered up by the cosmetic of divine love.

but this dishonors gods word.

aqwsed12345

Biblical Evidence for an Eternal Hell