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  Does the Watchtower favor interpretation over translation, especially in the case of Exodus 15:3?

  by Poppy520 in

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  exodus 15:3, "the lord is a man of war: the lord is his name.

  " kjv, esv, asv.. exodus 15:3, "jehovah is a powerful warrior.

  jehovah is his name.

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  'man of war' or 'warrior,'

  A nit-picking difference, indicating an amateur approach to translation.

  As you will note on this list of versions from biblehub at: http://biblehub.com/exodus/15-3.htm

  Most translations choose either of those words, with one standout, which is Young's Literal Trabslation who opts for - "Jehovah is a man of battle."

  Its good that you're interested in translation, but you should take a course (scholarly, of course) in biblical studies, and forget citing nonsense differences.

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  Hell Exists

  by Poppy520 in

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  2. beliefs

  many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.

  examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.

  nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".

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  Poppy520: When we want to prove something - we go straight to the Scriptures.

  Aaawww!!! That's a bit self-righteous.

  Actually you go straight to a translation of the scriptures, and its debatable whether any translation is entirely correct, because some words do not translate well. It is also debatable whether any available document in the original language that is assumed to be authentic is actually an accurate copy of the original, because none of the original text seem to have survived.

  I know all the usual arguments about the YHWH/Jesus combo god being able to preserve the scriptures, but if that's the case, why didn't they preserve the original texts?
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  China Spreads (a shopping) Revolution to the World

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  using the internet to market and sell goods is big business in china.

  company's like tencents and jack ma's alibaba are changing retailing in china and they say they will promote it all over the world.. but to get a sort of insight, here's a short video on the opening (in shanghai, last week) of the world's largest starbucks and only that chains second reserve roastery store (the first was in seattle).

  go full screen to get the full impact.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jbcpor2lw&feature=share.

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  Listener: That's a novel way to sell their products at Starbucks but I wonder how many people would be interested in going into their store and wasting time looking up items and info on their phones.

  Yup! Doesn't appeal to me either. I go to a coffee shop to buy coffee and maybe a quiet chat with a friend, not for entertainment. I guess this is another form of "shopping as entertainment" that has been changing retailing and moving it off the main street and into malls for quite a few decades (and definitely did not originate in China).
  

  But it also could be seen as "the smart phone as a disruptive device." And from that viewpoint we are likely to see lots of changes. Lots of people are now using their smart phones to pay, (a system that I guess was pioneered through eftpos).

  And, In Australia (and probably many other nations) the government has been thinking about going digital with eht Aussie dollar:

  A discussion here: https://theconversation.com/why-the-rba-would-want-to-create-a-digital-australian-dollar-86621

  And just 2 days ago there was a report that one day the may print less banknotes (or, maybe none) - that would be a significant change. How would old people cope with that. Hey! I don't even own a smart phone.

  And sometimes I wonder about them. When I visit China, some people are very kind to me, but I sat in a restaurant once for 2 hours while someone tried to use their smartphone to buy two tickets for us and book seats on a train for us to go back to Shanghai. And, the station was only a 10 minute drive away.

  But, OTOH, who could've imagined back in the 1980's that the postal service (as a means of communicating) would disappear. But who sends letters now? Emails superseded mail, and now emails are being superseded by the smart phone.
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  The Creation of Genesis Chapter 2ff

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i had long held the piece of the jigsaw puzzle which starts at genesis 2:4b – the yahwist’s creation story.

  i knew that its authors had never heard of lamarck’s theory of evolution, nor had they read darwin’s “origin of species”.

  the authors were addressing their own immediate culture, so i had to transport my mind to their times.

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  Gee Doug, I think you're opening a can of worms, (sorry, I meant snakes) with that post. Your concept could be correct, and I think you're quite correct in attempting to locate your mind in the culture of the authors of the Genesis 2 document. But that's where a big problem jumps up and bites us on the bum. What was the culture of the authors of Genesis 2.

  Was the document written prior to 1000 BCE (just to attempt to see what cultural influences may have been at work)? Was Egypt the key cultural influence?

  If the document was written before the Babylonian captivity, then Babylon was likely the main cultural influence. But Greek culture was also a likely cultural influence.

  Or, because Palestine was on a key north-south trade route, and not far from a western terminus of a east to west trade route, were the inhabitants aware of many other cultures?

  If you can get access to Stephen Harris' and Gloria Platzner's, Classical Mythology: Images and Insights, you may find many interesting thoughts on the subject of female divinities.

  Quoting from the 5th edition, (p.29) an opinion is given that the Minoan and other Aegean Island cultures worshipped the "Divine Woman.' and their Ch. 5 goes on to examine the Divine woman in Greek Mythology. In the earliest information we have for that culture, the primordial goddess is Gaea. In Egypt its Isis. Serpents also have an almost universal role in folk religion, sometimes associated with a female divinity, like this snake goddess from Knossos:

  

  And on p. 152, there's this reproduction of an image on 5th.C. BCE Athenian vase, imagining Heracles in the Garden of the Hesperides.

  

  Heracles is resting after his journey to the land of the setting sun, where the Greek version of Gaea's 'Tree of Life' grows (and, you note, that tree has a serpent guardian). Heracles charmed the Hesperides - the nymphs who also guard the golden apples that grow on the tree, into giving him one of the golden apples (that gave immortality)..

  I'd like to write more - but I'm snowed under at the moment. So thanks for posting your thoughts.
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  Sharing the Bad (shameful) News in all the Earth - Courtesy of the BBC

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. child-abuse

  australia's royal commission into child abuse released its full report yesterday, so it was gratifying to see the uk's bbc run this headline on their website this morning (aussie time):.

  australia jehovah's witnesses 'did not report 1,000 alleged abusers'.

  hopefully, all over the world people will learn the shameful news of what yhwh (as guided by the holy spirit) told his earthly witnesses to do.

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  tort500: "How can this get so much exposure in the big newspapers & not even a rumor... I wonder why ?"

  The 'why' is likely that any report that conflicts with their strongly held views, creates inner emotional tensions, that many solve by saying, "YHWH knows about it (i.e.Whatever they perceive as wrong) and will fix it in his due time."

  But the point is, that the more publicity there is, the less likely it is that they will convert more suckers to their religion.
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  Sharing the Bad (shameful) News in all the Earth - Courtesy of the BBC

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  australia's royal commission into child abuse released its full report yesterday, so it was gratifying to see the uk's bbc run this headline on their website this morning (aussie time):.

  australia jehovah's witnesses 'did not report 1,000 alleged abusers'.

  hopefully, all over the world people will learn the shameful news of what yhwh (as guided by the holy spirit) told his earthly witnesses to do.

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  Australia's Royal Commission into Child Abuse released its full report yesterday, so it was gratifying to see the UK's BBC run this headline on their website this morning (Aussie time):

  Australia Jehovah's Witnesses 'did not report 1,000 alleged abusers'

  Hopefully, all over the world people will learn the shameful news of what YHWH (as guided by the holy spirit) told his earthly witnesses to do. (The JWs do claim to be guided by the holy spirit)

  Check out the BBC story at: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-33673240

  And more at: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-42334381
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  China Spreads (a shopping) Revolution to the World

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  using the internet to market and sell goods is big business in china.

  company's like tencents and jack ma's alibaba are changing retailing in china and they say they will promote it all over the world.. but to get a sort of insight, here's a short video on the opening (in shanghai, last week) of the world's largest starbucks and only that chains second reserve roastery store (the first was in seattle).

  go full screen to get the full impact.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jbcpor2lw&feature=share.

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  Does it work?

  Well, the Double 11, 24 hour sale frenzy a few weeks back saw shoppers in many countries buy Aust $ 33 billion worth of stuff in just 24 hours,

  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-13/chinas-singles-day-smashes-retail-records/9144040
  

  Alibaba Economy at scale. 11.11 demonstrates the technological innovation and global scale of the entire Alibaba Economy. More than 140,000 brands and hundreds of millions of consumers will participate in 11.11 this year. This shopping festival will be supported by Alibaba’s global cloud, payment and logistics infrastructure.

  Consumers will enjoy seamless payment and consumer loan services provided by Ant Financial. Alibaba Cloud will serve as the core technology and computing backbone to ensure the best consumer experience throughout the festival. Cainiao Network expects over 3 million logistics personnel to facilitate the hundreds of millions of packages that will be generated from the festival.

  The number of annual active consumers on Alibaba’s China retail marketplaces reached 488 million, an increase of 22 million from the 12-month period ended June 30, 2017. See the performance highlights of Alibaba in Q3 2017 here.

  Power of the Chinese consumer. Alibaba expects that hundreds of millions of Chinese consumers who visit its platforms on November 11 will have access to over 60,000 international brands and merchants to satisfy their increasing demand for goods and products from around the world.

  This year, Tmall will, for the first time, leverage its popularity outside China to bring over 100 domestic Chinese brands to international markets, targeting millions of overseas Chinese consumers in Asia and the rest of the world.

  New Retail implementation. Alibaba’s New Retail model with integrated online-offline customer offerings will be showcased in store locations across China. More than 1,000 brands will convert nearly 100,000 physical locations into “smart stores” and our channel distribution solutions make it easy for more than 500,000 local neighborhood stores and Rural Taobao service centers to sell to consumers in lower-tier cities and rural villages.

  Read more: https://www.chinainternetwatch.com/22791/double-11-2017/#ixzz511Jjp800
  
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  China Spreads (a shopping) Revolution to the World

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  using the internet to market and sell goods is big business in china.

  company's like tencents and jack ma's alibaba are changing retailing in china and they say they will promote it all over the world.. but to get a sort of insight, here's a short video on the opening (in shanghai, last week) of the world's largest starbucks and only that chains second reserve roastery store (the first was in seattle).

  go full screen to get the full impact.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jbcpor2lw&feature=share.

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  How is i supposed to work?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sdszMUiT08
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  China Spreads (a shopping) Revolution to the World

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  using the internet to market and sell goods is big business in china.

  company's like tencents and jack ma's alibaba are changing retailing in china and they say they will promote it all over the world.. but to get a sort of insight, here's a short video on the opening (in shanghai, last week) of the world's largest starbucks and only that chains second reserve roastery store (the first was in seattle).

  go full screen to get the full impact.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9jbcpor2lw&feature=share.

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  fulltimestudent

  Using the internet to market and sell goods is big business in China. Company's like Tencents and Jack Ma's Alibaba are changing retailing in China and they say they will promote it all over the world.

  But to get a sort of insight, here's a short video on the opening (in Shanghai, last week) of the world's largest Starbucks and only that chains second Reserve Roastery store (the first was in Seattle). Go full screen to get the full impact.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JbcpOR2lw&feature=share
  

  As you saw, this Shanghai outlet is powered by Alibaba's retailing concepts.

  And, when it comes to retailing religion and you see JW.com switching to the Alibaba techniques*, (grin) you'll know that Jack Ma will have have converted the WT to his idea of a Retail paradise. There will be no need for YHWH's long promised Divine paradise when a virtual reality will let you experience paradise in the here and now.

  * Nothing strange about that, after all it's arguable that Joe Rutherford's long friendship with William Heath (a CC heir) and Coca Cola's policy of continuous advertising that led old Joe to "Advertise, Advertise, Advertise the King and the Kingdom."
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  CO Rose UK

  by jookbeard in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone know this guy, where he came from?

  how he climbed the jw ladder, i have to say i know nothing about him but he seems to be kicking ass with the problems in the north of england..

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  konceptual99: He is vengeful, spiteful, without mercy and simply a nasty piece of work.

  Yup, just the right tool in the hands of YHWH/Jesus.