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  16-year old high school senior raped & strangled inside Mexico Kingdom Hall

  by Alfred in

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  for those who know some spanish.... .

  a friend just forwarded me this (spanish) youtube video a few minutes ago... it's basically a tv news report about a rape/murder that occurred last august (2011) in mexico.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?nr=1&feature=endscreen&v=4fk4ngb9muk.

  apparently, a 16-year old jw girl was lured into a kingdom hall (by someone who had the keys) and then raped and strangled to death.. the reporter starts off by saying that the police have strong leads, but i have not been able to find much more info about this on the internet.

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  Alfred

  A little more info... This happened in April 2010 (not August 2011) and the perpetrator was caught in November 2011 after DNA evidence revealed that he raped her.

  According to several on-line news articles from Honduras, this was apparently a JW who had the Kingdom Hall keys and was in charge of KH security (I'm guessing he was in charge of watching the KH at night? who knows)... I'm just glad he was caught and brought to justice...

  I wonder how much the elders knew and if the Legal Department told them not to cooperate with authorities...

  
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  16-year old high school senior raped & strangled inside Mexico Kingdom Hall

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for those who know some spanish.... .

  a friend just forwarded me this (spanish) youtube video a few minutes ago... it's basically a tv news report about a rape/murder that occurred last august (2011) in mexico.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?nr=1&feature=endscreen&v=4fk4ngb9muk.

  apparently, a 16-year old jw girl was lured into a kingdom hall (by someone who had the keys) and then raped and strangled to death.. the reporter starts off by saying that the police have strong leads, but i have not been able to find much more info about this on the internet.

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  Alfred

  CORRECTION...

  This was in Nueva Suyapa, Honduras

  NOT MEXICO

  my apologies
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  16-year old high school senior raped & strangled inside Mexico Kingdom Hall

  by Alfred in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  for those who know some spanish.... .

  a friend just forwarded me this (spanish) youtube video a few minutes ago... it's basically a tv news report about a rape/murder that occurred last august (2011) in mexico.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?nr=1&feature=endscreen&v=4fk4ngb9muk.

  apparently, a 16-year old jw girl was lured into a kingdom hall (by someone who had the keys) and then raped and strangled to death.. the reporter starts off by saying that the police have strong leads, but i have not been able to find much more info about this on the internet.

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  Alfred

  For those who know some Spanish...

  A friend just forwarded me this (Spanish) YouTube video a few minutes ago... it's basically a TV news report about a rape/murder that occurred last August (2011) in Mexico...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=4fk4NGb9Muk

  Apparently, a 16-year old JW girl was lured into a Kingdom Hall (by someone who had the keys) and then raped and strangled to death.

  The reporter starts off by saying that the police have strong leads, but I have not been able to find much more info about this on the internet. (I'll keep looking)

  But I was really impressed by how the people in the town organized a protest right away and one woman even stated that the elders know something but is protecting the perpetrator. She also states that this is not the first time something like this happens in that Kingdom Hall. The protestors in general were demanding that the KH be shut down indefinately...

  Has anyone heard of this story?
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  Now that Rick is gone......

  by outsmartthesystem in

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  do you think there is any chance we can get 20571pnt428571......8675309....r2d2....10-4 over and out to quit bombarding the message boards with ridiculous apocolpytic fortune telling?

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  Alfred

  Just ignore him... I don't think anyone is reading his stuff anyway...
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  Did the 1914 Generation Die Anyway?

  by JanH in

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  2. friends

  did the 1914 generation die anyway?

  ver since the beginning of the watchtower movement, they have had some sort of deadline for god's activities.these activities could be the rapture of the saints (which jws today do not believe in), the destruction of "false religion", ie every other religious group, or the final end of this world.

  earlier, these deadlines were explicit dates.

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  Alfred

  Bumping this excellent old thread...
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  Question for elders about MEMORIAL EMBLEMS...

  by Alfred in

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  what is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the memorial?.

  is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?.

  if so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?.

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  Alfred

  What is done with the bread and the wine after the conclusion of the Memorial?

  Is it normally tossed in the trash and poured down the drain?

  If so, wouldn't that be simbolic of throwing Jesus' body in the trash and pouring his blood into the sewer?
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  Attention: Active JWs who post videos on YouTube...

  by Alfred in

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  2. beliefs

  ...specifically, those who tend to block the comments field:.

  if you are firmly convinced that you have the truthtm and that nothing anybody says can convince you that you really dont, why do you find it absolutely necessary to block anyone from posting their comments?.

  what you are doing, essentially, is preventing viewers from examining all the evidence as the bible clearly mandates in deu 18:20-22, 1 tes 5:21, 1 john 4: 1, etc.. so why not allow people to scrutinize all the comments and work out their own conclusions?

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  ...specifically, those who tend to BLOCK the Comments field:

  If you are firmly convinced that you have “The Truth TM ” and that nothing anybody says can convince you that you really don’t, why do you find it absolutely necessary to block anyone from posting their comments?

  What you are doing, essentially, is preventing viewers from examining ALL the evidence as the Bible clearly mandates in Deu 18:20-22, 1 Tes 5:21, 1 John 4: 1, etc.. So why not allow people to scrutinize all the comments and work out their own conclusions? If you really do have “The Truth TM ”, then people will tend to gravitate towards your conclusion on the matter being presented on your video. In fact, you will get a lot more positive comments than negative comments (if you present truthful information).

  Also, by blocking comments, you are really demonstrating an extreme lack of faith in Jehovah and thereby doubting that your “Truth” can withstand any comment that is posted on your video.

  Just something to think about…
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  I love my Congregation and Can't Wait for the District Assembly!

  by laverite in

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  2. beliefs

  hello my fellow jwners.

  i have been going the local unitarian church off and on for a few years.

  my kids and i go regularly now and love it.

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  Alfred

  Awesome!... thanks for sharing...
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  Noo Lite!

  by hoser in

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  there is noo lite on page 19 of the june 15/12 watchtower.. .

  from the perspective of bible prophecy, then,.

  the seventh world power did not become established.

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  Alfred

  When the f**k is the "beginning of the Lord's day"? October 2, 1914? ... notice how they no longer get specific on dates...
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  Regular Pioneers no longer appointed by Branch!

  by hoser in

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  2. friends

  a letter was read this thursday from the platform that the branch will no longer approve or remove regular pioneers.. it was called a simplified arrangement that the local body of elders would decide who should be appointed or removed as a regular pioneer and then to inform the branch of any appointments/deletions.

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  i guess the bethelite who had that assignment is now unemployed.

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  Alfred

  elderelite... mail can be slow in some parts of the world... maybe this guy is on the North Pole?

  Thanks for clearing that up...

  hoser?