In my opinion, anyone who is able to successfully manipulate millions of people using Bible text extrapolation quite possibly does have a high IQ (albeit evil-minded or delusional).
Posts by Alfred
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Fred Franz and high IQ
by petespal2002 ini recall reading somewhere that in his lifetime fred franz was listed as one of the most intelligent men in the usa.
can anyone think to what i am referring?
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Sooo Armageddon comes....
by MsGrowingGirl20 inso let's say armageddon comes,do you believe that all jw's would be destroyed because jehovah knows it's a false religion...it can't be denied,for the most part,they try to live by the bible...if anybody has to be punished i would say it's the leaders...i know that god wouldn't judge a whole organization but persons individually....so what i'm trying to ask is....do you think you're in a better position right now not for freedom but for salvation than the witnesses??
if by the time you're finished reading this post armageddon is here...would u wish that you still were a witness or are you satisfied that you've made god proud?.
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Alfred
There is no Armageddon... at least not the WT's interpretation of a so-called Armageddon.
But assuming God does intend to commit global genocide, it won't because people are going to wrong church.
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Ridiculous article I found about anointed going to heaven/partaking of emblems
by lilbluekitty ini'm copy/pasting this from the cd rom (i only have the 2008 one and older ones), watchtower 2/15/03.
i was browsing to refresh my memory what jws believe about who can partake of the memorial because the church i go to now has the lord's supper every sunday as part of their worship.
a person who truly has this calling does not need to ask others if he has such a hope.
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Alfred
Paragraph 4 is implying that the Great Crowd cannot partake because they are in an "unclean state"...
I guess the annointed are in a clean state?
What does that even mean?
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WT Seeking Donations Of Gold: News To Me... When and Where?
by Room 215 ini noted in a thread on kingdom hall remodelling that some mentioned that a call for donations of gold jewellery was made from the platform.
since this sounds like something that would have been presented by a part on the service meeting and therefore noted in the kingdom ministry schedule, can anyone recall the specifics of this?
if so, how recently?
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Alfred
That's how they built the Assemby Hall in Ajalvir, Spain (before selling it for a fat profit recently)... the WT even blatantly admits that poor Spanish kids sold their toys so that this assembly hall could be built (because the GB had no intention of spending one red cent for this hall)...
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The Story of Randall Watters part II - Trouble at Bethel
by Dogpatch inmy story part 2: trouble at bethel.
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[endif]by my third year at bethel i was really enjoying it and determined to make bethel a life career.
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Alfred
"Others were implicated and disfellowshipped as well, such as fellow translators Nestor Kuilan and his wife, as well as Rene Vazquez."
Recently, my wife and I have become friends with Nestor Kuilan and his wife Toni... he's 73 years old now and doing extremely well. He has some really interesting stories about bethel and his time in Spain as missionary and CO... I've been trying to convince him to tell his story here but he prefers to leave the past behind him. He is literally the kindest most humble person I have ever met.
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Kingdom Hall remodel - scam
by Dagney ini was wondering from any here in the know, does it seem like there is a lot of "remodels" going on?.
in the last week i had the occasion to talk with two jw's in different halls, about 10 miles apart.
they both are undergoing major remodels.
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Alfred
This is not only a good source of revenue for the Watchtower but it also increases FIELD SERVICE HOURS which can be used in assembly boasting sessions. (assuming they still allow JWs to count their time for putting up dry wall in the KH)
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Do Wicked Elders and Elderettes Think Jehovah Is Stupid?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis inbrother pathological liar has remained in his position (appointed by the holy spirit) for thirty years now.
he has no problem lying under oath.
(prayer before a judicial comitte, investigation) or slandering anyone who might stand up to his darkness.
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Alfred
there was an elder in my congo that I always tried to avoid as much as possible because he would somehow find a way to latch on to me and dump all the congo's latest gossip on me as if I were a reporter for the National Enquirer... i don't know what the hell made him think that I like listening to his rants because my uncomfortable body language (whenever he carried on with his gossip) was so obvious... but somehow he would sneak up behind me in FS or in the hall and start firing away about how sister chatty can't keep her mouth shut during meetings or how sister sexy always went to the bathroom to check her hair (wtf? how does he even know that?)...
also, whenever someone got df'd, the entire congo knew every last detail of the wrongdoing before the next meeting... i have to wonder whether it was this elder who spilled the beans... he just couldn't control himself...
by the way, he was also collecting disability insurance while regular pioneering and was very open about it!!! wtf???
but at least he was appointed by holy spirit.
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30 Minute Public Talk-CONFIRMED
by stillajwexelder ini can confirm (as there seems to be some doubt) at the service meeting last night during the item about the new watchtower, a letter was read by the po.
the public talk is to be 30 minutes long.
this is to allow for more association and ministry.. lengthy negative introductions about the state of the system of things/deep last days etc are to be heavily curtailed.
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Alfred
Commencing full lock-down procedure in 3, 2, 1....
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risc of allowed fractions
by inbetween ina brother in my hall mentioned in a twist of scriptures how we can thank the faithful slave class for warning us in connection with blood transfusions since 1945, because now the medical field recognises the riscs and try to minimize the use of blood.. despite the fatcs, that this statement is ridicolous in so many ways, i d like to find information (outside the "apostate" realm) that proves, that even allowed fractions are involing the risc of getting hepatitis, aids etc.... that would completely refute such a notion.. thx in advance... .
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Alfred
The so-called faithful & discreet slave could have warned us about eating apples and you'll always find some JWs (who are allergic to apples) who will thank the FDS for "discerning the scriptures" as the medical field is now recognizing the dangers of apples in some people. And the same could have been said about practically anything else that enters the human body. JWs have become so dumbed down over the years that most have lost their ability to reason logically... that is why the WT can easily convince them that their ridiculous interpretation of blood-related Bible texts was facilitated by the holy spirit...
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Alfred
MsGrowingGirl20... I believe several of us sent you PMs a few weeks ago... not sure if you saw those yet but you have to click on the envelope on the top right corner of this page...