a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
I’ll just put this out there. Short and concise : the divide is foundational. It’s fundamental. We have grave differences on how to organize society. It has little to do with religion, nothing to do with Trump. It has nothing to do with racism, although you wouldn’t know that listening to the news.
It’s the foundation principles that have defined western civilization, the ones that make capitalism even remotely possible. We are at that level.
There isn’t a middle ground as far as I can see.
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@hybridous:
Money itself isn’t evil. People don’t desire money. They desire the resources that can be acquired with money. And yes, one of our greatest problems is the money printing. If the government were to deposit $1,000,000,000,000 into the accounts of each American, we would all instantly be poor in real terms. Years of labor wiped out. Only people with assists would have a way through (already owning some of the stuff).
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Anon: Yes, same with Alan Dershowitz. He has a podcast now in the legal space. People called in with suggestions on what Biden could do to really unify, or at least attempt to unify the nation. Just the opposite is happening.
there are recommendations that we should start doubling up on masks.
some have even suggested that tripling masks would even be better!
what’s your opinion of wearing numerous masks?
I wear the loosest cloth mask allowed by law, with great ventilation; basically almost a ridiculous mockery of the idea that it might prevent anything.
I also went into a Walmart.
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@min:
Who are you responding to?
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@SWTTE:
There's a lot there about money there. As you said, money has been around for quite some time. Are you saying that money itself is a problem? If so, I wouldn't agree. I don't think there is anything wrong with money, itself. It is a tool. It facilitates exchange, facilitates economic calculation.
But perhaps that is part of the divide here. I am not sure how you rate yourself on the political spectrum, but the next question might reveal something...
Out of control world + low compassion = Divided.
But that just pushes the question off by only one level. What is causing the world to go out of control? If you think the world is out of control, what does "in control" look like? What do you feel is wrong?
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Rivergang:
It sucks to be in a situation of resentment. Although, usually there are reasons for resentment. No worries if you don’t want to go further. The OP wanted to talk about deeper meaning why one half of the country wants to disfellowship/divorce the other. I don’t really think it has anything to do with Trump or Biden personally. And I don’t think it’s superficial at all.
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Rivergang:
And so the question still looms: what is the conflict? You think it is minor, just a matter of timing?
If the husband of the hypothetical divorcing couple stated, as the reason for divorce, that the wife has a spending problem, slept around a bit, and was an emotional manipulator, do you really think the divorce was about meals?
a republican congressman voted his conscience to impeach trump.
the results might surprise some of us.. "my dad's cousins sent me a petition - a certified letter - saying they disowned me because i'm in 'the devil's army' now," kinzinger said in a phone conversation on thursday.
"it's been crazy, when you have friends - that you thought were good friends that would love you no matter what - that don't.".
@Rivergang:
That seems a bit obvious. If it handled by a secession, then the outcome will be determined by the secession. If it is handled by an armed conflict, then the outcome will be determined by the armed conflict. If it is handled by the big tech companies silencing any dissent, then the outcome will be determined by the censorship. Again, seems obvious.
But then again, is anything really "handled"?
someone i know from england is a nurse.
she told me there was an outbreak at the hospital and she got the virus after being vaccinated.
she said she was told it probably would have been much worse for her had she not gotten vaccinated.
Even non-political information would be nice. People are smart and can make good decisions, if given good information.
