now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.
did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.
also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.
I often wondered what would happen if you started turning in reports for other people. You know, just make stuff up. Like turn in a real detailed report for one of the elders, but do it before the end of the month so that the secretary would get the fake report first. Then when the real one came in, it would look sparse and pitiful compared to the real detailed one.
Or report "eleventy seven" for someone not even in the congregation.
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
What I mean is:
1) I read your paragraph first, assuming it was a brief teaser of the main point of the video. I found myself asking immediately if the statement "molecules don't care about life" is really meaningful at all in this context. It begs the question of an intelligent design argument. How? Well, the only thing that can "care" about anything is intelligence, and if that's "the problem", then you assume before you start that life needs an intelligent designer. Word salad.
2) I watched the first part of the video where the speaker definitely the "minimum characteristics of life" as needing cells, and then immediately shuts down objection to the argument he knows is coming by claiming anyone that might question that is simply "redefining official terms". And right at the beginning he puts a hurdle in front of the other sides argument. What a horrible strawman. Again - word salad.
It was at this point that I just stopped and posted my previous statement.
"molecules don't care about life.
" first part deals with abiogenesis and the state of current research.
second part stephen meyer proposes intelligent design as an explanation of some of the problems.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bss0rxpsbuq.
Uggg. So much word salad.
now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.
did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.
also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.
@Notformer:
That absolutely happened. I heard it first hand in car groups. The previous owners may have to be removed and thrown onto the streets for the birds to eat before the new owner could get in there to switch out the drapes (not my words). Then everyone in the car would drive to Dunkin Donuts for a "break".
now that there is new light on reporting hours in field service, it's raised a few questions for me, who was never in the jws.
did any of you ever have fun with the field service report slips, by finding creative ways of reporting time without raising suspicions in those who oversaw the collection of those slips?.
also, can anyone upload an image of what the slips looked like, or point me to a post that gives uploaded examples of the sort of paperwork that was familiar to jws in good standing?.
That's like asking "Did you ever have fun at your proctologist appointments?"
so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.
beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.
the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?
But the actual amount of real ministry will plummet. All those “20 hour” publishers will now be “4 hour” publishers. All the current “4 hour” publishers will now become “2 minute” publishers..
You act like they didn't do that before and just lie about the time spent... :)
I've seen all sorts of people do this - just squint and write a reasonably plausible number down... 3... 4....7....2. Meh, it's not like they pull you into a back room and audit you. Did they really spend 7 hours "witnessing"? Hell no. But, maybe they showed up to one Saturday (and then drove around and got doughnuts). After that, well, perhaps they wrote letters. Who can know?
They always knew people were doing that. Now they just reduced the lie to a checkbox.
i remember him on this site when he was called cedars and had jw survey.. straightaway i noticed he could not accept suggestions.. the time i knew he was dangerous was when his group aawa added people to their fb group without their permission and were outed.. he refused to close the fb page (whilst celebrating 1300 members joining in a few days).
one member complained and was subsequently disfellowshipped, which could easily have been avoided.. three week's after launching, the fb page was closed down.
from that moment i knew james lloyd evans was dangerous.. when did you realise he not good?.
It does take one thing he explicitly admits that he is lacking: Mastery of his penis.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
"It is a Process" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
Hotel, budget stay.
I dream of girls, masterbate.
Downtown Thailand calls.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Im sure he will be happy to continue using vulnerable people until he builds enough support in the new genre and then those “lloyal” supporters will see how much lloyd didn’t care about them, just their $.
Waaiiittt. Wut?
So he's bailing on the WT grift, in favor of a "genre" more accepting of his values?
Is he... he... actually going to start an OnlyFans?! I mean, we were joking about this at the very start of the megathread. Is it actually happening?
i hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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Right, but that goes to the heart of this thread.
You are saying they WANT to have molesters among them, and even appointed. That would mean they aren't motivated by the organization having a good public image.
Officially, there isn't a "we love molesters" position. It's officially quite the opposite. They officially abhor child molestation. If you went up to the average elder, and said, is it good to molest children, you honestly belive he would say, "Meh. Whatever. "?
