i hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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Right, but that goes to the heart of this thread.
You are saying they WANT to have molesters among them, and even appointed. That would mean they aren't motivated by the organization having a good public image.
Officially, there isn't a "we love molesters" position. It's officially quite the opposite. They officially abhor child molestation. If you went up to the average elder, and said, is it good to molest children, you honestly belive he would say, "Meh. Whatever. "?
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"Priorities" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
I will do what's right.
i hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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I guess what I was trying to say is that I don't know why they don't adopt a policy like that. I mean, it gives them a lot of reputational points. Just come out and say "Predators are everywhere. No religion condones this stuff, and we belive its not a reflection of the religion when a predator tries to find a spot to prey on innocent people. But we won't tolerate it."
I mean, why not? It makes the org look cleaner. Then would be cleaner, objectively! And they aren't violating biblical standards at all. All the law suit stuff goes away (at least going forward).
i hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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If I were tasked with coming up with a policy that would maximize organizational reputation, it would be this:
"Any report of serious, illegal wrongdoing, a potential felony, including all sex crimes, murder will be reported to police. We won't assume guilt, but the police are better equipped to conduct a criminal investigation. Any judicial committee formed will be concerned with spiritual matters only. Elders may reprove any individual while they address the wrongdoers relationship with God. We believe that part of seeking forgiveness is to take responsibility for your actions, which means the organization will not shield members from their legal accountability. The two-witness rule applies to organizational procedure only. If this deters wrong doers from confessing their sins (because we report crimes to the police), fine. The results of the criminal trial may play a part in a disfellowshipping decision."
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"Responsibility" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
My wife, money, life
Future relationships, gone.
Damn you Kim, damn you.
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"Progress Without Sexual Repression" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
My activism.
Focus is impossible.
Constant erection.
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"Alas" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
One month vacation.
Two months, let's stay for Christmas.
Young girls. Addiction.
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"Personal Struggles" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
In the dark of night
I pursue a hopeless goal
Penis, behave! Please!
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"Honorable Profession" - A Haiku by Lloyd Evans
Thailand, on the streets
selena accused tony morris of being involved in child abuse and the pimo bethelite who just got kicked out.
let’s see how this rolls out.
I always thought one of their larger issues is that the entire religion is factually false.
