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MeanMrMustard
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW
by doasthouwilt ini’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
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MeanMrMustard
Holy forking red flags, Batman!
I should add ...
Yeah, you think?...that she had been disfellowshipped* once many years ago, for reasons unrelated to being unequally yoked, sex or the like. She moved in with her BF of the time shortly thereafter and went on to marry him - they had a child and were together for many years.
Odd. Sure sounds like the same thing...Sometime between the marriage and subsequent divorce...
Just imagine the probability that some other guy, four years from now, wanders onto this site wondering how to marry this great JW girl - except this time you are the ex. Imagine that probability being north of 60% at this point ...... she decided she was repentant and was refellowshipped (?). I believe she was scared back into it due to 9/11, or so a mutual friend told me.
Orrrrrr, she had used all her previous human capital and wandered back for fellowship and socialization. Now she's got you, so she's ready to give it all another shot.Simon is right - she needs to make a choice, and stop the bull shit. She also shouldn't be using you for that. It is a simple choice - it really is. And she should level with you. I know she hasn't because you are here posting what you are posting... or you are a troll.
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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW
by doasthouwilt ini’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
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MeanMrMustard
Good luck. You're involved with a person who won't leave their religion but sneaks around and breaks the most ardent rule that the religion has.
Exactly. I would think this is the bigger issue. My guess is she doesn't really want to be in this religion, she is heavily PIMO, and has a bunch of social structures holding her there.
doasthouwilt: Either she's lying to you, or she's lying to them. Long term, she should be honest.
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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW
by doasthouwilt ini’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.
our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.
once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.
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MeanMrMustard
Here is a better question : Does she really believe this stuff? She is living with a worldly man, having sex often. Yet, she is a pioneer and wants to stay one?
There is a serious disconnect here. Perhaps the goal shouldn't be to minimize punishment. Perhaps the goal should be a break with the religion, after on honest reflection on what she really thinks.
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Is ACTIVISM destroying Christianity itself?
by Terry inin this video (i watched this morning when i woke up) i suddenly discovered something i was only slightly aware ofwhich is bedeviling mainstream christianity and that a different kind of activism is at work.a different sort of "religious" movement than the one ex-jw's engage in.i'd like to get your thoughts on this.
i'm still thinking about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gviljk-fnn0&t=616s.
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MeanMrMustard
It absolutely is working its way into everything.@Terry - have you seen James Lindsey's recent series on this? I wanted to post it. It's long, but you see where this is all coming from.
I created the thread here : https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5660075640225792/latest-series-on-crt
There are some thoughts about how it's gotten into the Southern Baptist church. But i do admit that you need to sink some time into the videos. But if you don't have anything better to do and want to know more about it, it's a great series.
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Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?
by Ron.W. in(ps.
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MeanMrMustard
Fixed for the tour I type of emotional manipulation that's really there:
No, you are not obligated in any way. The purpose of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches. It just so happens that we'll show you the Bible teaches that you should be a JW. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you. You are under no obligation to be a good person. If you want to die a horrible death because you are morally empty, well, faith is a personal matter.
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Olin Moyle's letter to Judge Rutherford
by GabeAthouse inolin moyle was an attorney who was invited to bethel headquarters back in the 1930's to assist with legal cases at that time.
he became disillusioned with the culture at the headquarters and penned the following letter of resignation.
rutherford replied with an outrageous article in the watchtower provoking moyle to sue.
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MeanMrMustard
Seems like if we wanted to summarize:
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Dear Brother Rutherford,
You're generally an asshole. You use foul language as part of your assholery. You also drink too much. Therfore, I quit.
Xoxo,
Moyle
P.S. - If you want to reach me concerning these matters, don't. I'm on vacation, and I don't want to deal with assholes while on vacation.
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"Midnight Mass" on Netflix
by smiddy3 ini watched the 7 part series and finished today .what struck me about the show was how one could cherry pick scriptures to believe whatever you want to believe.. the use of scriptures to back up the beliefs was in my mind an eye opener.. ok so it was over the top and a horror supernatural series with a bit of blood and gore,and if your a bit squeamish about that sort of thing close your eyes till those parts are over .. but what i found fascinating ,intriguing,was how one of the main characters used scriptures to enforce her understanding of how they applied to the here and now of the series.. cherry picking of scriptures to believe what you want to believe,with a little help from a priest ,pastor ,organization.. i would recommend it ,as you can easily see how, their are now more than 40,000 different christian sects in the world including the mainstream ones who believe they only have the "truth".. i welcome your thoughts if you have seen it.. ps.
obviously their are no jw`s on this island ..
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MeanMrMustard
Awesome. I was looking for something to watch.
What service carries "Severence"? I don't see it on Netflix.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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MeanMrMustard
I'll preemptively issue myself a demand letter, in shame.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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MeanMrMustard
Wow 105 pages devoted to this guy...
One for every definitely-over-20 girl he's punctually visited on an I-wouldnt-say-regular basis.