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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

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  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  There is no systemic racism in the US.

  The concept is basically that if you pressed a button and magically all of the racists in the world disappeared, the system would continue to be racist only for its laws and policies.

  I disagree on two counts. 1) Your definition of systemic racism is rational, and the CRT-types are not operating under a rational world view. Their definition is different than your definition. They argue from postmodern critical theory perspective, and use inequity as evidence. In other words, if you magically remove all racists, and magically remove all government too, then any inequity is evidence of the truth that life is just one big power struggle and if whites are doing better than blacks, the "systemic" racism still exists - even without a government. The system would just be the whiteness of the nation, or some such bull shirt. 2) Under your entirely rational definition, since the left is now injecting CRT (i.e. real racism - race essentialism) into politics, policy, and law, it's "systemic" under your definition.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Trump had stopped Critical Race Theory in federal agencies, and no longer permitted the concept of "white privilege" to guide any training or contracts.

  "All agencies are directed to begin to identify all contracts or other agency spending related to any training on 'critical race theory,' 'white privilege,' or any other training or propaganda effort that teaches or suggests either (1) that the United States is an inherently racist or evil country or (2) that any race or ethnicity is inherently racist or evil."

  Biden has reversed this, of course. It intersects this thread in two spots: 1) As I mentioned CRT is real racism and to the extent that it is embedded in government, it is also real systemic racism, and 2) this policy was attempting to put a dent into the ideology that causes the racial division.

  All the while CNN was screaming about Chrolotteville, and insisting he deny the KKK for the millionth time, Trump was actually doing something to help.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Trump and his supporters have made things much worse than they used to be.

  Give me a break. You got that exactly backwards.
  
  
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  Why the obsession with minority and blacks on this thread.

  Is it because he's RRRrrrrraacsit?
  
  
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  What Will Happen If You Do NOT Get The Covid Vaccinations?

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  we are encouraged to all, if possible, get the vaccinations.

  if you don’t, we are told that we definitely could get the virus.

  fair enough.. but what happens if you decide you aren’t going to get the shots?

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  Once government health officials see through data that 80 % their population has been vaccinated and case numbers drop dramatically, they will assume herd immunity has be established and therefore social restrictions can be lifted.

  I disagree. That's precisely when they start to lock down because of "variants".
  
  
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  @iXav:
  
  Yeah. This whole concept has the scent of bull shirt surrounding it, doesn't it?

  The thing is that when a rational group of individuals get together on a former JW forum and try to make sense of the idea of "systemic racism", the conversation starts by defining terms - a completely reasonable place to begin. And before we know it, rational definitions are proposed.
  
  But when you corner, if you can, a true believer in "systemic racism", you can't seem to get a plain, coherent definition. They waffle around because they want to assert the most ridiculous idea, that when said out loud in a succinct way, makes them sound exactly racist. The country is steeped in "systemic" racism because they view the world through the lens of power struggles, like a good Marxist critical theorist. It is assumed, a-priori, that racism is baked into every level of society, from soup to nuts, to bolster the white dominant hold in this power struggle. This is where they start their entire view of the world. This is the foundation. It's not "systemic" because you can define the concept and prove it through evidence, it's "systemic" because it just is - as if it were a brute fact, as obvious as 2+2=4. To deny systemic racism is like denying math, and only shows your "fragility".
  
  From that point on it is the job of the SJW anti-racist to find the racism hiding everywhere. That is, to be "critical" and show how "problematic" all aspects of society actually are - exposing the racism that's under the surface of every situation.
  
  Hence you get the forked up logic of the 1619 project. You get the woke crowd from the Smithsonian declaring that fundamental virtues like being on time, hard work, delayed gratification are just signs of "whiteness".

  Ironically, the anti-racist ideas are actually the most racist by definition. And now, as politicians back and promote legistion with these ideas, they are, in fact injecting racism into the system again, making the "systemic racism" real ... well, at least how rational people would define it.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  You have a right to your opinion and you can call it BS but having a definition will still help your argument.

  I have been in many threads on this very site on "systemic racism". I have begged for a coherent definition. It always seems to be the opponents of the idea that the country is a big racist hell hole trying to figure out what the leftist postmodernists might mean.

  I don't think this country is racist.
  
  
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  @iXav:

  I think the concept of "systemic racism" was created to push political policies that wouldn't pass on their own merits. And that most claims of systemic racism are bull shirt. The claim that the foundational principles of this nation are racist is hog wash.

  But if it is defined as "government preference by race", then it exists - exemplified by the Democrat party.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  That said, there are too many white people in this country who look down on people who don't look like them.

  The real question is who are the whites that look down on "people who don't look like them"?

  It would be the whites that think blacks don't have any moral agency. It's the whites that think blacks can't operate outside the help of whites.
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  Systemic Racism: What’s Your View? Is it As Pervasive As Some Suggest?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the president of the united states says we have to do something about this.

  many politicians and people agree that we are all affected by the scourge of systemic racism.

  what’s your view of this?

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  MeanMrMustard

  It's confession by projection. The left thinks racism is everywhere because their fundamental view is racist.