@millie:
I hear what you are saying, but I think you will still run into the same difficulty - mainly, you have to eventually define what you mean by 'privilege'. You begin by saying that 'privilege' is like 'power'. But that is still unclear.
MeanMrMustard
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
@TD:
Yeah, that's what I mean. I would love for Harris to literally make a list of things that put Trump in that "existential threat" category, and then review them on stream with someone else as reasonable from the other side. It might be one of those Larry Elder/Dave Rubin moments.
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
@Simon,
I watched the Sam Harris podcast you linked a few pages back.
It is very well reasoned out. I have to admit, I haven’t really been following Sam Harris that much. But during the podcast he expressed his absolute disdain for Trump. When he said that he views a second Trump term as an “existential threat”, I went into a Sam Harris binge watch for a bit (haven’t posted on this thread because I’ve been listening to his podcasts). Normally Sam is well reasoned, but this threw me off a bit. So I started to go back in an attempt to get him to expand on his reasons why he thinks this strongly of Trump’s presidency. I just wanted to get somewhat of a list, devoid of “my side vs your side” sort-of-thing.
I have to admit, I couldn’t find it. Yeah, I found some podcasts where he griped about abandoning the Kurds. But in general, it’s more of a feeling of ‘the worst parts of America culture rolled into one man’. No real listing of what those worst parts are... just that he is utterly unsophisticated. Oh, and he really hated the tweeting.
It seems he’s really good when it comes to data. When he has raw data staring him the face, he can’t turn away. I respect that. But he seems to have a Trumped shaped emotional blind spot there. When someone worries about Trump turning authoritarian to the tune of Hitler, it implies a bit of TDS.
Do you know if he actually lists reasons for his view (Not appealing to some sort of elitism or emotion)?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
Textbooks? Surely those books have definitions, don’t they?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
@TD: I see. So you are saying even black people use the term incorrectly, mostly to mean “racism”. In a similar way men are “privileged” (or so 99% would say) because of sexism?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
@TD: Ok, still trying to narrow it down.
We are starting to just list examples, but perhaps they might be helpful. You can already see the moves being made - you list an example, but counter examples immediately pop out. Statistics will soon be on the way.
So initially you said that white people are defensive around the term “white privilege” because we just don’t quite understand it, or use the term correctly. And yet, it can’t really be defined - except with the “you know it when you experience” it argument. And so we have no choice but to attempt to enumerate example experiences to help ‘get the feeling’ of it.
“Privilege” went to “preference” then to “extreme preference” to “prejudice”. I wonder, could it be heading toward a general “racism” at this point? And if that is the case, are you sure white people don’t understand what is implied by that term?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
That's privilege. --Immediate acceptance into the social group based on skin color and geographic origin.
That doesn’t sound like “privilege”, it sounds like “preference”. Do you honestly think that black people would not also express an “immediate acceptance” for other blacks? Would you call that “black privilege”? Don’t you think those blacks might share something more than skin color?
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Seattle "autonomous zone"
by mikeflood init's wrong that thing in seattle where protesters established an ' autonomous zone ' .
police shouldn't have police - free zones.. the left is taking some risks here....russian revolution implemented more than a hundred years ago the so called soviets or "councils of workmen's and soldier's deputies".
what are they gonna do when 'autonomous zones ' pop elsewhere?.
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MeanMrMustard
Within 4 days the leaders of CHAZ have 1) come up with the most ridiculous name, 2) established a commune with no police, 3) erected walls, border walls, you know... to keep those on the other side out, 4) exhausted all food, 5) begged for more food and appropriate vegan substitutes, 6) started to shake down local businesses, 7) established a new “police” force, 8) obtained rule by “warlord” rapper, 9) began checking everyone at the border of CHAZ for ideological purity, and 10) fully implement stop-and-frisk for anyone that “looks unusual”.
Riiiight. #UtopiaIsOnlyADayAway
@Biahi: this is par for the course when it comes to leftism
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
Which is exactly why it elicits feelings of defensiveness among white people.
Are you saying that if only white people understood the term’s true meaning, we wouldn’t be so worked up?
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“White Privilege”
by minimus inlately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!
i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.
in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?
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MeanMrMustard
So, after the fallout, what is “white privilege”? Can it be clearly defined? How can it be detected? What distinguishes “white privilege” from making better decisions, having kids within a family, staying out of crime? Why aren’t we talking about “Asian privilege”, since they earn more than whites, are involved in less crime than whites, and have more intact families?