Posts by MeanMrMustard

Patriarchal meaning
"relating to or characteristic of a system of society or government controlled by men."
Within the context of the statement and the title of that section "black villages", the statement seems to suggest that they want to deal with the issues/practice of absent "men/fathers" that pushes black women to work "double shifts" in order to care of their children.
What is wrong with that?

If the BLM statement were clear, without the word salad, you wouldn’t have to let us all know what it “seems to suggest”. I don’t buy your explanation.

So to be clear, they explicitly state that they want to dismantle the nuclear / traditional family, and yet, at the same time, address the overwhelming majority of black fathers leaving these families? Well, they want the men to stick around, but not in a family, so mothers do not have to parent, but rather engage in “public justice work”? (Because they explicitly say this, so I can only assume that it has meaning).

So in their mind, there is no traditional family. But a village, right? Just men sticking with their baby-mamas, doing father work, so that the mother can participate in “public justice work”, and swoop in later to “mother in private”? But since the fathers are doing the parenting, and the mother is out doing “public justice work”, were do they get the money from? Perhaps they still are counting on the welfare payments because the father isn’t in the house? Or perhaps they have that good old communist hard-on?

It’s all word salad. They won’t state anything clearly because a clear view of the problem might actually imply a solution they are ideologically opposed to.

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

Again, right from the BLM website:

We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

Mothers are pulling “double shifts”? And this is a patriarchal practice? What is “public justice work”? Are they trying to say mothers should participate in activism (instead of actually working), and because they also have kids, probably with no man around, they pull “double shifts”, and they want this, clearly, patriarchal practice to stop?

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Would You Like To See Your Police Departments “Defunded”?

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jw
friends

do you think it’s a good idea?.

MeanMrMustard

They want to defund the police for YOU, but there will no doubt be special security for THEM.

I think it’s worse. Their platform is “No guns for you, just the police. Also, no police.”

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

The point:

It is not the color of skin that matters, and the poverty doesn't create the crime.

Welfare incentivizes single motherhood (they get paid more when the man is not in the household). Single motherhood and fatherless homes causes the crime (the crime is overwhelmingly among young males). Finally, the crime causes the poverty (Nobody wants to do business there, and nobody wants to invest if the place is always a hop-skip-and-jump away from burning to the ground).

The best thing that could happen to blacks is a withdraw of welfare, a return to actual families (ladies will have to actually choose good men and stick with them). This will improve the culture, and then wealth will follow.

And if you want it to happen even faster.

1) Give school vouchers - parents that care will find better schools for their kids

2) Get the unions out of schools and allow the vouchers to be used in private schools - give public schools competition

3) Get rid of the minimum wage

In other words: leave the Democratic Plantation.

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

Exactly. It’s not about black lives, it’s about a political and economic ideology that will destroy all prosperity.

It is why they ask you to kneel.

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

It is well known that the driving force for this phenomenon is the breakdown of the family structure in the black community...

Given that, what does it imply about the official stand of BLM, taken directly from their official website?

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

#PourGasOnFire

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

A black man in a suit is just as respected as a white man in a suit. A white guy dressed as a hells-angel is just as threatening as a shirtless black guy with his pants round his knees.
But even if that were not the case. Who's fault is it? Humans are pattern matching machines. We based our lives off past experiences and things we've seen. If we see a gang of black youths and deem them a threat, who's fault is that?

I found this black man, commenting on this topic, to be interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evkdEamAZ3k

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

@Hisclarkness:

Going back to page 9, Concerning "systemic racism":

Important distinctions need to be made. "Systemic" racism implies there is racism inherent to the "system". I think being precise is very important. When I think of the "system", I think of the laws, the founding ideas, and the universal principles that under-girds the government. It is the framework that we all operate within, the system of laws that define the "ground rules" for the interactions we have. To be clear, it goes deeper than the laws themselves. It is the principles that give justification for the laws. There have been times in the past when those principles were tossed to the side and laws were created that violated those fundamentals. Those laws are examples of "systemic racism".

I think we part ways in the definition of "system". I could be wrong about this, but after re-reading your posts, it really sounds like you define "system" in a different way. Although I can't put my finger on it. It seems like a vague definition. For example, if a bank decides not to underwrite a certain area because of risk, you perceive that as "the system" and as racism (instead of just risk management). Or even if a bank refuses to underwrite a certain redlined location based completely on race, not risk, because maybe its a bank of KKK members, you see that as discriminatory action by the "system". In reality, the "system" is on your side because that sort of redlining is illegal.

In my mind there is a clear distinction between what is the "system" and what could be attributed to individual racist acts. This distinction is very important because if you listen to the rhetoric of BLM, they want to tear it all down. To BLM (the topic of this thread), the US is racist from its founding. The entire things needs to go and that helps us understand what they define as "systemic", even though you might have a different definition. It has been noted by many people, including black people, that if BLM really were to live up to its namesake, it would actually care about all the black lives lost each day in the inner cities (at the hands of other blacks). They don't. Because its not about blacks mattering. It is about a political and economic ideology.

Eventually you said:

This is why racism is systemic. Sure, the KKK and like minded individuals still exist. But racism today is less an individual problem. There is no one person to point the finger to and this is why the subject is often so hard to have.

To me, this is an amazing statement. It is as if you feel the racism is "systemic" because you can acknowledge objectively that "racism today is less an individual problem". And, you are right - individual racism is not an issue. Nobody is out to be a racist, except the 11 members of the KKK, as you point out. Businesses, corporations, politicians, are bending over backwards to virtue signal this. Nevertheless, you feel the racism out there. It is as if you want to assert that there some nebulous cloud of racism out there, a racist fog that you can't really see or hear or touch. It is just permeating society, and the "system". It has to be the "system" because individuals aren't the problem.

Believe it or not, this was acknowledged on page 9, and Simon gave a really good explanation of it - you are feeling the "Democratic Plantation". It is exactly what your community has voted for, and continues to vote for.

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Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i agree with people who say all lives matter.

i think blm is a racist group.

if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

MeanMrMustard

There definitely were racist laws against blacks in the US at one point but these rules were deemed unconstitutional and overturned. This is where the democrats were sneaky. The welfare system has to some degree decimated the black community and I think it was intentional, but there isn't anything racist in it per-se, it's just targeting "fried chicken".

This is a good point that, I think, a lot of people, especially black people, miss. What they may be perceiving as “systemic racism” is the end result of the exact policies that they themselves voted for and continue to vote for. In fact, it is the exact policies that they riot and loot for.

And this is exactly what some blacks (like Owens, Elder) now understand and refer to as the “Democratic Plantation.” Blacks, to the tune of 90%, vote for the policies that indirectly target their population, and cause more of the same.