Posts by MeanMrMustard

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My "shameless" relationship with my ex wife

by Jayk in

i've thought about keeping this to myself but i'm still confused on what i should do.. my ex wife(never been a jw) and myself(raised in the org till 16)have been reconnecting these past few weeks.

we been divorced for almost 10 years, we got married when we where pretty young, and it didnt last long.. fast forward 10 years, her and i have been reconnecting and things are getting semi serious.. she got remarried, divorced again, and recently broke up with her gf.

so in the past 10 years she has only been with 3 people (including myself) and here comes me "a sucker with no self esteem".

MeanMrMustard

The kids real dad is a asshole from what I'm told.

The last four words in that sentence are important.

He gets them on the weekends. When she left him after she couldn't deal with him anymore he burned a bunch of her stuff.

Why couldn’t she deal with him? It seems she has told you he’s a first class asshole. I’m sure she told him you were an angel. I’m sure that’s why he burned your eyes out on the pictures... or she did.

She still had pictures from our wedding and he burned my eyes out in all of them...

Or she did.

She was dating him before her and I got married.. They split up then her and I got together. When her and I got divorced she didnt immediately go running back to him but it eventually happened.

It’s called monkey branching..

His family never excepted her after that, because they felt she left him for me but she left him and just happened to meet me..

Monkey branch. Wait, I thought she left him and hooked up with the drug addicted lady for a few years of scissor love?

Funny you say that because she usually does pay on dates. I will try but she usually insists on it. I'm not gonna argue I will just get her back another time.

Yeah. That’s definitely cool. So there is no need at all to be legally bound to your resources, especially if she’s got plenty of money from.... alimony and child support?? ... I am not sure you mentioned what she does.

Does she allocate any of that cash to therapy to attempt figure out why she’s made the decisions in her life, and to take personal responsibility for making them?

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

MeanMrMustard

We should blame religion when religious regimes kill people in the name of their religion. We can't blame religion when secular regimes kill people.

Right. This still seems to be something deeper. The pretext doesn’t matter, it’s the foundational viewpoint - which I generally would call “left”. Deprecation of the individual, a focus on the collective, a subjective view of rights (whatever the group decides), etc.

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My "shameless" relationship with my ex wife

by Jayk in

i've thought about keeping this to myself but i'm still confused on what i should do.. my ex wife(never been a jw) and myself(raised in the org till 16)have been reconnecting these past few weeks.

we been divorced for almost 10 years, we got married when we where pretty young, and it didnt last long.. fast forward 10 years, her and i have been reconnecting and things are getting semi serious.. she got remarried, divorced again, and recently broke up with her gf.

so in the past 10 years she has only been with 3 people (including myself) and here comes me "a sucker with no self esteem".

MeanMrMustard

The kids are deff something we are taking into consideration so that people dont come in and out of their lives.

Right. Speaking of which - where’s the father? Either 1) he’s a good guy that didn’t want to stick around because she is insufferable or 2) perhaps she left a good guy because she’s terribly immature and hypergamous, or 3) he’s a crappy guy, which tends to call into question her decision making abilities. You can probably reflect on this, since she left you for the father of her kids, right? In any case, it’s not good.

She doesnt need me to be there financially or a father figure for her kids.

Cool. So, give this a shot. Tell her that you’ll give the relationship a go, but no marriage. She doesn’t need to be legally bound to your resources, and you don’t need to parent her children, so it should all work out, right? Also, you would like her to pay on the next date.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

MeanMrMustard

@V:

Exactly. I don’t think this type of collectivist think is tightly causally bound to religion, or to atheism.

It’s an independent line, generally “left”.

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My "shameless" relationship with my ex wife

by Jayk in

i've thought about keeping this to myself but i'm still confused on what i should do.. my ex wife(never been a jw) and myself(raised in the org till 16)have been reconnecting these past few weeks.

we been divorced for almost 10 years, we got married when we where pretty young, and it didnt last long.. fast forward 10 years, her and i have been reconnecting and things are getting semi serious.. she got remarried, divorced again, and recently broke up with her gf.

so in the past 10 years she has only been with 3 people (including myself) and here comes me "a sucker with no self esteem".

MeanMrMustard

She is looking for a sucker like you to take care of her and her kids.

Yeah. This seems like the likely scenario at this point.

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Trudeau's chocolate charm.

by waton in

e liked the success, explaining the repeat performanceswhy would an alpha male like the former prime minister's elliot trudeau's son justin want to appear different?

here is my theory:.

he took acting lessons, and is still using the acquired skills.

MeanMrMustard

MMM: title was deliberately chosen.

Oh, I would hope it was intentional. Nevertheless, he has a reputation for being a charming pretty boy, and at the same time completely “woke”, invoking the full SJE wrath at any horrible bigot that might consider wearing black face. His chocolate charm indeed.

I will say this - that is definitely some high-effort black face. I mean every nook and cranny of his skin was blacked out. Even his hand was completely covered, right down to the fingernails.

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My "shameless" relationship with my ex wife

by Jayk in

i've thought about keeping this to myself but i'm still confused on what i should do.. my ex wife(never been a jw) and myself(raised in the org till 16)have been reconnecting these past few weeks.

we been divorced for almost 10 years, we got married when we where pretty young, and it didnt last long.. fast forward 10 years, her and i have been reconnecting and things are getting semi serious.. she got remarried, divorced again, and recently broke up with her gf.

so in the past 10 years she has only been with 3 people (including myself) and here comes me "a sucker with no self esteem".

MeanMrMustard

So, two failed marriages (one with you), someone else’s kids, bi-sexual, drugs in the last relationship, current taking SSRIs. Also, gets manipulative when you express doubt.

From what possible perspective does this end well?

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

MeanMrMustard

As Hitch reminded audiences many times and schooled religious devotees about is obvious in history books around the world ... the people that did the bidding of these evil leaders were religious, they weren't secular. Sorry, parroting Christian fundamentalist talking points / propaganda to hate on atheism with doesn't work on me.

We are not too far off from each other, OGTG. But I think you are missing the point. I said explicitly in the previous post, the purpose of bringing up secular evils is not, repeat not, to promote a religious point of view over an atheist point of view. Or to argue, as the gentleman opposite of Hitchens was arguing, that the lack of religion was the cause of the atrocities. I’m not saying that at all. I’m an atheist too.

What I am saying is that the left vs right divide is independent of theism vs atheism, Democrat vs Republican, etc. I do not think the lack of religion was the cause of authoritarian regimes, as if all that was needed to prevent these atrocities was Jesus. But I am also saying that the lack of religion wouldn’t have prevented it either. That’s where it sounds like you were going with your line of thought - if religion is eradicated, then all is well. If you have a thriving environment of leftist thinking, you’ll end up in the same spot, the only difference being the justification for the tyranny.

If that is the case, I'm definitely not "left" leaning at all, I must be full "right", and what is more, I've never talked to a single person that is "left".

I don’t think most people are leftists. Have you talked to anyone that thinks “hate speech” is a form speech that can and should be banned? Have you talked to anyone that agrees with The Green New Deal? Have you talked to anyone that thinks health care is a right (as opposed to an entitlement)? Just take a gander at the Democrat line up this election cycle.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

MeanMrMustard

What's going to happen to the UK if it becomes Muslim majority in the future?

I think that the majority Muslim population, since they aren’t likely to embrace Western values, would become more militant, Sharia law would be implemented, and the UK would descend into tyranny... unless the Brits can remember their classical liberal heritage.

The reason: Islam is a LEFTIST ideology. It’s a collectivist, authoritarian structure.

Do you think that the personal beliefs of the Muslims might impact the laws at some point?

Yes. See above. There is no separation between Mosque and state. For Islam, the Mosque is the state, one in the same.

I'm concerned about people's personal beliefs AND governmental law, because one impacts the other.

Right, ok. The point that I have been trying to make: there are certain foundational ways of looking at the world that characterize “left” and “right”. It is not universal. They do NOT align with political parties exactly. And it is the “leftist” viewpoint that you should be scared of, not religion per-se.

Of all the authoritarian regimes of the last 100 years, how many have been secular and how many have been religious? Mao, Pol Pot, Soviet Union, Hitler even - these were all secular in nature, were they not? We already touched on Islam - so that’s one on the religious side. We all came from the JW cult. Pretty authoritarian - in its own bubble. JWs are not trying to get ahold of law to force others into their perspective.

The point here is not to try to promote religious thinking over secular thinking. Rather, just to point out that you can still end up in the same type of authoritarian hell with atheists at the wheel. The difference is left vs right. The farther left, the more comfortable you get losing the individual to the collective, and using the force of law, of the government, to enforce some sort of uniformity. Fundamental rights like freedom of association, speech, private property - all are optional to the left.

You can also get Republicans wanting to force religious norms with law - completely agree. But to me, that’s a person claiming to be on the right, indulging in leftist thinking... it’s shortsighted at best.

Again, that’s the way I see the continuum... so that it operates like a continuum.

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Do you enjoy critical research ?

by Introvert 2 in

question, are you open to and enjoy doing critical research ?.

as a trades person with little education other than being a high school vocational graduate in machine shop tech.

1980 and now a small business owner i find proper research to be essential.

MeanMrMustard

People don't roll dice to create laws MMM, they do it based on their values.

Yes, exactly. That’s the point. His values are right leaning. Meaning that even though he disagrees with gay marriage he will refrain from forcing anyone else to fall in line with his view. The use of force is key here.

This is not the case with the left.