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  CIVILIAN SERVICE

  by blondie in

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  how many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.

  shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.

  " flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.

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  Ding

  Think of all the JWs who went to prison needlessly because their "brothers" at headquarters decided they had to.
  
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

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  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  Ding

  Counting time meant that the goal was putting in the time, not actually accomplishing anything.

  A good example of that is all the cart sitting that has gone on.

  Hours and hours without even trying to engage anyone in conversation.

  If someone actually asks a question, they just refer them to the website.
  
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

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  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  Ding

  Wear a jw dot org sticker on your jacket and you are constantly witnessing, just like JWs at carts who don't engage anyone in conversation.
  
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  Thought on “0 hours” reporting

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
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  so everyone knows the “big news” of this past weekend, no more reporting of hours, placements, return visits, etc.

  beginning november 1, jws just tick a box indicating whether they “shared in any form of the ministry during the month”.. so there was a brief comment by a redditor that seems like a brief joke “throwaway comment” but after thinking about it….why not?.

  the idea is, what is “any form of the ministry”?

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  Ding

  Why wouldn't giving a friendly greeting to someone at the hall be considered "any form of the ministry," especially if you love bomb a visitor?

  If it refers to the "preaching ministry," why wouldn't leaving one tract a month at the laundromat, restaurant table, or public bathroom qualify?

  As FFGhost said, "It is now an utterly meaningless designation."
  
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  With no reporting necessary do they still need a territory guy?

  by carla in

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  now that they no longer have to report hours do they still need a territory guy?

  maps?

  etc...?.

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  Ding

  They didn't say they were stopping field service.

  Elders will still stress the importance of witnessing and "lovingly counsel" JWs to do it.
  
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Ding

  They'll still be able to say, "Our zeal in witnessing shouldn't flag at all in these last days. By the way, Brother PIMO, would you like to come out in service with me on Saturday?"
  
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  Ding

  Vanderhoven7,

  Good points, but instead of "deep research of Watchtower publications only," I'd say, "Make the truth your own" means "accept without question what the WT teaches now and don't let it cross your mind that they ever taught anything else."
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Ding

  On further thought, I would expect the organization to stress that this change doesn't mean there should be less field service.

  I expect something like this: "Brothers, just because field service reporting requirements have changed doesn't mean we should flag in zeal. If anything, the amount of our door to door witnessing ministry should be increasing given that this may be the last chance for our family, co-workers, and neighbors to come into the truth before the fiery storm of Armageddon is upon us. If we truly love Jehovah and love our neighbors as ourselves..."
  
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Ding

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the rationale for the reporting requirements that they were necessary in order for the organization to conduct the witnessing work efficiently?

  If so, either that was a lie or the GB no longer cares about witnessing efficiency.
  
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  Ding

  "...the field service report will simply have a box that allows each publisher to indicate that he or she shared in any form of the ministry during the month."

  That could mean anything, even giving one friendly greeting to a visitor at a meeting.
  

  If this is such a wonderful change, why did it take them this long to make it?

  Now what will the COs have to complain about to the elders? Not enough pioneers? Not enough studies being conducted?

  Why would they do this with Armageddon supposedly sooooo close?

  So they can circle the wagons and hide in bunkers more effectively?