Posts by mentallyfree31

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Jerusalem in Bible TimesWhat Does Archaeology Reveal?

by TD in

that was the title of an article appearing in the watchtower of june 15th 1997. on page 12, this article stated:.

"visitors can see remains from this destruction that took place over 2,500 years ago.

the israelite tower, the burnt room, and the bullae house are names of popular archaeological sites preserved and open to the public.

mentallyfree31

Not only is 607 contested, but the ENTIRE world of history agrees on 587/586. Watchtower stands alone in claiming a different date.

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The Spanish dilemma now hitting the W.T. org...conference call Saturday June 19,2010

by koolaid-man in

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friends

the watchtower organization now finds themselves in a major predicament and a very puzzling situation concerning the spanish j.w.s.

all through the 80s and 90s the org.

put forth great efforts to attract the hispanics.

I actually attended a spanish hall some for a while before my exit. I was learning the language. But I was never in it deep enough to see any of the problems that you mention. But, sounds like great news to me. Hispanics are definitely a family-oriented culture.

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Library Visit # 2: 607 BCE vs. 587 BCE - With Pictures!

by mentallyfree31 in

approximately five weeks ago, i visited the local library and searched every book i could find that discusses the destruction of jerusalem in ancient times.

if you didn't see that thread, you can find it here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/192813/1/607-b-c-e-a-trip-to-the-local-library-with-pictures.

the results were conclusive: all secular sources agree that jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 bce.

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Regarding the origin of 606 BCE, I looked at quite a bit of information a while back. John Aquila Brown, spoke of the 2,520 years well before Charles Russell was born. His book "The Even Tide" was written in the early 1820's. But his timeline was 604 BCE to 1917 BCE, I believe. So I still don't know the real origin of 606 BCE. It could have been this:

Armageddon was predicted for 1914. When Russell/Barbour accepted John Aquila Brown's 2,520 year prophecy - they backed up from 1914 and arrived at 606 (mistakenly counting a zero year).

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Sunday June 20th is Father's Day: Where will you Be?

by YoursChelbie in

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friends

i hope all the great dads out there have an awesome father's day this sunday!.

whether you are a dad or not you're welcome to hang out with some of us from jwd.

we're having a gathering here in north texas!

mentallyfree31

I will be celebrating with my "apostate" family..

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From priviliged to ashamed

by wannabefree in

i just finished chapter 8 of crisis of conscience.. i used to feel humbled, but priviliged to think that jehovah drew me to his organization.

so few find it and he allowed me!.

now i feel humbled, but ashamed that i never examined the religion and got sucked in.

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ThinkAboutIt - You HAVE to read CoC. Please put that on your to-do-list right away. You will not regret it. I promise.

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Stopping in to say hello and share some good updates

by FlyingHighNow in

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friends

i don't log on to jwn much anymore.

you all are always in my thoughts though.

i miss you.

mentallyfree31

FHN - I am new to the forum, so I never knew you before. But I'm glad you have good news to speak of.

Best of luck to you!

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I want to know whether 607 is valid or not.

by XPeterX in

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friends

i seek concrete evidence.explain it in a few words or post links that can contradict jw material.if 607 is a lie then 1914 is lie..

mentallyfree31

607 BCE exists only in the minds of 7 million Jehovah's Witnesses. Please check out my link that mrsjones posted towards the beginning of this thread. I searched every book in the library that mentioned the destruction of jerusalem, and they all agree on 587/586 BCE. Ray Franz and Carl Oloff Johnson (author of book pictured above) researched this all over New York City Libraries in the 1970's. They found not one reference to 607 BCE. It only exists in WT publications. It was literally pulled out of thin air.

Thus, 1914 is almost a hundred years away and we are still here. Nothing happened. WT claims that all these invisible things happened. Now you see why they have to claim everything was "invisible", because that's the only way they can keep people captive to their ideas. 1914 will have the same fate eventually as the former date of 1799. Decades of people were taught by WT that 1799 was the beginning of the last days. Eventually after 100 years + had passed, they threw that date out, and came up with 1914. So it will be again in the future.

Here's something to ponder that you may not be aware of. Initially, the date that WT assigned to the destruction was actually 606 BCE. Notice below, i will paste in some screenshots taken from a pdf file of early WT magazines. As you will see, the date of the first mention of it is June 1880. Notice in the second picture the date of 606 BCE:

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Eventually, they realized that if you add 2,520 years to 606, you end up at 1915, because there is no zero (0) year. So instead of correcting their math and adjusting 1914 to 1915, they reassigned the destruction of Jerusalem to 607, thus keeping 1914. 1914 was important because WW1 started in 1914, so that was a big argument that times changed in that year. Please note: The mistake was simply counting a zero year. But they adjusted history and changed the date for the destruction of jerusalem.

In conclusion, I have seen hundreds of WT prophecies turn out to be nothing more than lies. If you haven't seen this documentation, I can send you my collection of 27 pages of false prophecies that all failed to come true. When I found all of this in my research, I decided to base my beliefs on the facts. And that facts show that the ENTIRE world (secular, religious and archeological) of research agrees that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 BCE.

Best of luck to you!

-mentallyfree31-

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Library Visit # 2: 607 BCE vs. 587 BCE - With Pictures!

by mentallyfree31 in

approximately five weeks ago, i visited the local library and searched every book i could find that discusses the destruction of jerusalem in ancient times.

if you didn't see that thread, you can find it here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/192813/1/607-b-c-e-a-trip-to-the-local-library-with-pictures.

the results were conclusive: all secular sources agree that jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 bce.

mentallyfree31

Copy it and use it like its yours garyneal.

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Library Visit # 2: 607 BCE vs. 587 BCE - With Pictures!

by mentallyfree31 in

approximately five weeks ago, i visited the local library and searched every book i could find that discusses the destruction of jerusalem in ancient times.

if you didn't see that thread, you can find it here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/192813/1/607-b-c-e-a-trip-to-the-local-library-with-pictures.

the results were conclusive: all secular sources agree that jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 bce.

mentallyfree31

Outlaw - LOL

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Library Visit # 2: 607 BCE vs. 587 BCE - With Pictures!

by mentallyfree31 in

approximately five weeks ago, i visited the local library and searched every book i could find that discusses the destruction of jerusalem in ancient times.

if you didn't see that thread, you can find it here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/192813/1/607-b-c-e-a-trip-to-the-local-library-with-pictures.

the results were conclusive: all secular sources agree that jerusalem was destroyed in 587/586 bce.

mentallyfree31

Thanks everybody for your comments..

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