Teary, it's a members-only version of The Watchtower because its intended audience is Jehovah's Witnesses who attend meetings. As opposed to the public version, whose intended audience is the public. As you well know.
MrMonroe
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Watchtower STUDY EDITION - Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements?
by punkofnice inis it me or do i notice that all the weird and hateful cultish statements are now appearing in the 'study edition' washtowels?.
anointed are nuts - august 15, 2011 watchtower (the study edition) pg 22 qfr: memorial partakers.
this is the number.
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Watchtower STUDY EDITION - Vehicle for Vitriol and REALLY crazy statements?
by punkofnice inis it me or do i notice that all the weird and hateful cultish statements are now appearing in the 'study edition' washtowels?.
anointed are nuts - august 15, 2011 watchtower (the study edition) pg 22 qfr: memorial partakers.
this is the number.
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MrMonroe
Hence the Melbourne Herald Sun's "mentally diseased" article pointing out that it appeared in a "members-only version of The Watchtower."
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WT Flip-Flops on Jesus Inspection Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?
by Alfred inthis is utterly ridiculous.... .
the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.
it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).
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MrMonroe
NVR2L8: So right.
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Straight from the September Watchtower. How can they print this without blushing?
by nicolaou inthe watchtower september 1, 2010 11. .
the dangers of being deceived (page 10/11).
to deceive, says one dictionary, means to cause to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid.
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MrMonroe
In the light of "new understandings" about the existence of the faithful and discreet slave, I just thought I'd resurrect this thread.
It's actually quite funny: the Governing Body approving an article about how sad it is that people allow themselves to be deceived. Just read that excerpt in the first post on this thread again. Really, words fail me.
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The real identity of the F&DS revealed...any news yet?
by Aussie Oz inrecently barbara posted the update on the unthank case and mentioned that more would be revealed soon on the real identity of the faithful slave.. has it been revealed yet?
have i missed it?.
been looking, hoping!.
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MrMonroe
Joey, that elder needs to read Ray Franz's In Search of Christian Freedom. Franz, of course, was a member of the Governing Body, so he was in a position to know.
On pages 152 to 164 he explicitly deals with the widespread perception among Witnesses that anointed JWs pass on their thoughts to headquarters and that these are then translated into doctrinal shifts. Franz says there is no such process, and that letters from anointed JWs are treated with no more interest at Bethel than are letters from anyone else.
The WTS has explicitly said no global network of anointed Witnesses exists to reveal new spiritual truths, and that those members of the "slave class" outside the Governing Body are not consulted when making decisions. For references see "The Faithful Steward and Its Governing Body", The Watchtower, June 15, 2009, page 24, and "Be Obedient to Those Taking the Lead", The Watchtower, September 15, 1989, page 21, paragraph 5.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-23-2011 WT Study (PURSUE PEACE)
by blondie inreview comments will be headed by comments.
comments.
comments.
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MrMonroe
Even people belonging to the same national group and speaking the same
language are often divided religiously, politically,
and socially. By contrast, Jehovah’s
people are united.
Members of other religions are allowed to think for themselves and make decisions based on personal conscience. Jehovah's Witnesses attain "unity" by enforcing centrally dictated rules on thinking and conduct with the threat of expulsion and shunning for any who break ranks.
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"we don't need holidays as an excuse to give gifts to our children"
by Sour Grapes inbefore my mother became a jehovah's witness i remember.
the fun of christmas and opening the beautifully wrapped.
gifts under the christmas tree.
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MrMonroe
Anyone, Christian or non-Christian, has the right to decide whether they want to celebrate Christmas or not.
This religion decides that if anyone decides as a matter of conscience that they can do so (as did Charles Russell and his followers who, ahem, Jesus chose as his faithful slave in 1918 or 1919), they should be expelled and that no member of the religion should ever speak to them again.
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Australia Jehovah's Witnesses Child Abuse/Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witnesses Court Case
by mind blown in.. case number: b12083527.
.. case number: b12083108.
.. case number: b12083367.
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MrMonroe
Anyone getting a response from the Watchtower either stating the (possibly "worldly") lawyers were mistaken or invoking "theocratic warfare" could have a bombshell of info for the court.
Wontleave, the lawyers representing the WTS live and work at Bethel. Vin Toole's legal studies and training were funded by the WTS. In many ways Vin Toole is the WTS in Australia. Witnesses in Queensland, where he served as a CO, practically bow down to him. He is adored at Bethel.
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WT Flip-Flops on Jesus Inspection Was it in 1918 or 1919?... Did the WT PASS or FAIL?
by Alfred inthis is utterly ridiculous.... .
the more i research this particular subject, the more flip-flops i uncover.
it seems the fds cant even make up their minds regarding what happened in 1918 (or should i say 1919?).
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MrMonroe
Ding, you're so right. The son of a friend of mine has recently joined. He has told his father the newspaper reports of the "mentally diseased" statement are lies; that his father just doesn't understand becuse he's not a JW. He is embarking on a life of dutiful, unthinking obedience to a group of faceless men in NY and has chosen not to listen to those who identify major flaws in the logic. One day he, too, will be like that old man, chasing rainbows. Wasted life.
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James Beverley's book on Penton's expulsion now on Abebooks
by MrMonroe in"crisis of allegiance" is a slim, but excellent book written by a professor of religion on the events in lethbridge, alberta, around 1981, that led to the expulsion of jim penton, a jw who believed he was anointed but also happened to think the wts had some doctrines wrong.. it's a great read that ties in quite closely with the campaign to get rid of ray franz, showing the dirty tricks used by the society to rid themselves of someone who dared to question them.
penton was an academic who the society loved when he wrote a book on their human rights legal challenges ... but when he expanded his research and decided to do a book on their history, pow!
they began regarding him with great suspicion.
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MrMonroe
Interesting, dgp: I have had online discussions with JWs who believe Penton is utterly biased against the WTS. Others have evidently chosen not to read the book, believing it to be a hatchet job on their beloved religion.