so an apostabuddy wanted to stage a silent protest at the assembly hall where she was baptized.
we went today.
the plan was to wear these apostate t-shirts that had stuff printed on them about thinking for yourself, and a bunch of websites.
Great stuff, serenitynow.
They stayed in their seat because they were (a) petrified of what might eventuate and (b) because the WTS had never given them instructions on what to do in the event of a brazen apostate appearing in their midst. No one was game to make the first move and stand up.
probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.
regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
They also keep records of judicial committee decisions and retain files of disfellowshipped members. Yet not the details of those God is using as his channel. Curious.
the whole fds and the gb representing them is a huge jump of impossible logic.... if the wt do not by their own admission, count the annointed nor know how many real ones there are, if they dont consult the remaining ones, the faithful slave how the hell can the gb 'represent' them?.
i mean, how can i for example tell the world that i represent the people of my town in parliment if not only have they never met me, i have never so much as asked one single towns person anything?
if i don't even know how many people live in my town?
Meanwhile ... What blogs and what websites?
probably this topic has been dealt with before, but i'm relatively new here, so perhaps y'all will be willing to indulge me in my pursuit for clarity.
regarding the anointed, the gb recently said this: .
"we thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.
Because they believe the first myth -- that God directs and leads their organisation -- they then, of necessity, believe that anything it says is true.
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
I still don't get why there wouldn't be a transcript. Isn't there ALWAYS a transcript in all court sessions?
No.
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
Of course there will be a transcript. The June 8 meeting had a transcript, and so do depositions, so why wouldn't these hearings?
What took place on June 8 was a publlic hearing by the Victorian government's inquiry into protecting vunerable children. It had nothing to do with the magistrates court. No one in the magistrates court in Morwell will have been recording the conversations for a transcript.
i recently had a falling-out with a jw which i won't go into because it is nonsense really.
in one of the pathetic retorts i was told i was "negative".
this wasn't the first time i heard this from a jw over the years.. what i have noticed is that it is because i spoke about real life situations in the world and/or problems and wrong things in the religion.
The Watchtower has always warned against the "dangers" of negative speech, so naturally the drones will go to extreme measures to comply. Essentially it's just another control tactic to ensure people are made to feel BAAAD if they ever criticise the authority structure or one of the WTS's methods. Because ultimately it's not the idiots running the show you're criticising, you're actually finding fault with God!
Years ago, after the Revelation Climax book came out, I was having a discussion with an elder who was a bloody moaner himself, always complaining in coded language about the way the other elders treated him. I mentioned some minor criticism about the Revelation book and he suddenly leapt down my throat and said I was being critical.
After a while you just don't bother raising any criticism -- whether it's the boring, repetitive meetings and assemblies or the pointlessness of spending hours in the field service for no constructive purpose. There'll always be someone who starts sooking and accuses you of being negative and then word will get around that you're a "murmurer" and "complainer".
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
The material above is not a transcript. It is the observations of someone in the court for the purposes of Unthank's website.
i'm not sure if this is a controversial subject or not, i suspect it is, the 1936-1945 nazi regime were the most evil b*****d's in the world and thankfully were destroyed, however the jehovah's witnesses having sufffered under their rule, then became even more evil not by destroying the person's physical life, but destroying their way to god, if a person leaves then they become dead to god, and this from a second rate publishing company!
please don't think i'm being flippant about all the suffering and death the nazi's caused, but as we are most of us spiritual people, surely the witnesses caused a catastrophy in the post 1945 era.. best regards,.
star tiger .
The Watch Tower leadership certainly acts in a manner that resembles totalitarian states, in which information is controlled and members are stirred into activity to pursue a common goal achieved through unity of thinking. They clearly identify their enemies and encourage members to hate them. They also require unquestioning obedience.
It's an ideology, a belief generated by the cultish conviction that they alone are God's "organisation" and are acting on God's instructions.
Hitler had a worldview as well, but it was driven by a maniacal belief that Jews were the cause of the world's evils. He saw them as inhuman beasts and had no conscience about exterminating them en masse. There's the difference.
I'm reading a chilling book at the moment, Saul Friedlander's Nazi Germany and the Jews, which includes accounts of the cold and dispasionate mass murder of tens of thousands of Jews at a time in 1941: men and women alike were ordered to strip naked, lie face-down in a pit or on top of dead or dying Jews before they were shot with a single bullet to the head from a distance of two metres. The soldiers worked in long shifts to carry out their work.
As much as I hate the WTS, I would never suggest that they would do the same. There's a limit to Star Tiger's analogy, but there are certainly some common elements.
this is a preliminary summary only.
i hope to obtain more details later.. .
all five cases are still within the criminal justice system.
I doubt there would be a transcript. It wasn't a trial, it was a mentions hearing, which is purely administrative process, setting dates for the next hearing and working out where it fits in the legal system.
It's quite possible someone from the WTS side made a reference to the FDS being a theological arrangement -- they are happy to use the words "theolological" and "denomination" when they're forced to in a legal setting but avoid using them in their literature because it demeans their sense of divine appointment.
However I don't for a moment think that they would have referred to it as an imaginary friend. The rest of the quote referring to "a well placed mind placement" etc is clearly the thinking of someone who is an opponent of the WTS, possibly lifted from a web forum.
