Here is what most foreigners just do not seem to get. A sizeable portion of the American people would love to pull our troops out of everywhere, except the countries we are currently engaged in (Iraq, Afghanistan). This same sizeable portion of the American population would love to cut all aid to all these little dictators throughout the world. The only reason we have troops all these places, and give money to all these dictators is we are attempting to keep the world somewhat stable. The vast majority of Americans have no desire for an empire or any of the other crap that people accuse us of doing.
I for one think we should pull out of everything, UN, NATO, everything. Let france and germany solve the worlds problems. The entertainment value of their actions should prove to be priceless.
BTW, the soviet union did not fall without a bullet, Korea, Viet Nam, Afghanistan just to name a few. The two major players never fought directly but the Soviet Union did not fall with out fighting. South Africa is a good point, I have always felt than when economic pressure can be used instead of bullets it should be. I am a bit surprised to hear someone from Europe make this claim however, since you guys screamed non-stop about how cruel our economic sanctions were against Iraq.
Terry
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10The Sun never sets on the American Empire !
by Amazing intalking with critics recently revealed a concern of theirs that if the usa is going to go after saddam because he is a bad guy ... then, they ask: "what about the rest of the world?
" ... mmmm ... well ... yes ... what about the rest of the world?.
to date, america has removed noriega of panama, tried to kill castro of cuba, assisted with the removal of marcos, former president and dictator for life of the philipines, took back grenada, beat the crap out of qadaffy of lybia, removed the taliban from afghanistan, and then removed saddam hussein of iraq from power ... in the past we helped remove hitler, mussilini, and a few other crumudgeons.
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Man gets life in prison for spitting
by happyout inman gets life in prison for spitting
wednesday, july 2, 2003 posted: 3:16 pm edt (1916 gmt).
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The punishment is definitely incongruent with the crime. I am seeing more and more stupid sentences like this; usually the reason is a flawed three-strike law or mandatory minimums. Both, good in principle but often lack a sense of justice in their execution. Oh, and for some of our foreign friends that may be confused, the jury only determines guilt, the judge sets the sentence.
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Voting Bush out
by Jayson inwhat is the best campaign stratagy to win against him?
be serious this is to win the minds of american voters not to polerize them against you.
otherwise it's a plug for him.. i think that the one real weakness is unemployment in america.
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Lieberman (sp?) is the closest the democrats have towards a legitimate candidate. However, I think Lieberman’s centrist ideas and support for the Iraq war will prevent him from gaining the nomination. I remember a few months ago he was booed by Democrats out her in California. If no WMD’s are found by the election, it will still be a non-issue. With all the mass graves and such being found in Iraq most Americans see Hussein himself as a weapon of mass destruction. Most, Americans are glad he is gone. Even if the economy tanks and unemployment is high if the Democrats do not begin to come up with some ideas it will not matter, for them the next election will be just like the last.
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Walk Away or Fight?
by Bendrr ini've posted in the past about some tension with some coworkers.
i'm sure some of it is my fault.
i've got a quick temper and the stress at work really brings it out in me.
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First you did the right thing, not fighting. Second you manager is an idiot and should be fired immediatly for letting this situation occur. Terry
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Voting Bush out
by Jayson inwhat is the best campaign stratagy to win against him?
be serious this is to win the minds of american voters not to polerize them against you.
otherwise it's a plug for him.. i think that the one real weakness is unemployment in america.
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Larc,
First most of the job creation under Clinton had more to do with higher worker productivity driven by IT than anything he did, so in a sense you are correct. However, the Clinton administration did do some other things that helped the economic boom even more. Under Clinton welfare was reformed, while the federal government basically just put a 5 year cap on benefits many states created programs that help people get back to work, training, free child care etc etc. This reduced welfare expenditures allowed other things to be purchased like the 100k police officers. Also by balancing the budget, more or less, Clinton helped reduce interest rates. Low interest rates make it cheaper for companies to buy new equipment to further increase their productivity and offer their products at lower prices leading to better standard of living. The point of this is simply that the president does have some influence of the economy, maybe something like 30% influence, if you want to throw out a number. The economy is not just random chance the administration is accountable for the countries economic state, just think of the difference between Hoover and FDR.
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Voting Bush out
by Jayson inwhat is the best campaign stratagy to win against him?
be serious this is to win the minds of american voters not to polerize them against you.
otherwise it's a plug for him.. i think that the one real weakness is unemployment in america.
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The economy will be the biggest factor in the next election. As far as how much influence the president has on the economy, he has some. It’s true the economy moves with a natural business cycle that is driven by numerous variables like the average age of consumers non-perishable goods, etc, etc, forever. But, the actions the president takes can minimize the lows and maximize the highs. It will be interesting to see if Bush’s tax cut does any good. Most Americans really do not like unemployment much higher than 6 percent and if unemployment rises to 8-10% Bush will be in trouble. For the Dems to actually capitalize on the economy, if it does not get better, they must have a plan. So far, the Democrats have not come up with a decent economic counter proposal of their own.
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Poll suggests world hostile to US
by Simon inan interesting read:.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2994924.stm.
some key bits:.
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I am begining to wonder if Simon is a troll.
Terry
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Rejoice in Mecca
by ashitaka inreligious police told to smile .
brian whitaker.
tuesday june 10, 2003. the guardian .
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<p>Every time I read a post by Hamas I think to the movie with Gene Wilder, the producers. I think of the crazy Nazi playwright = hamas.<br>
Terry</p>
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Hillary Clintons new book
by freedom96 in.
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will it be found under the fiction or non-fiction section?
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I dont think so because you would have to explain Libby Dole and Eleanor Roosevelt. There is more to it than that. I think the Clintons might have came to represent the 60's generation to people that hate the 60's generation. Or maybe not. I really dont know why the hate I am just tossing thoughts around here.
Terry
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Funny Marine saying
by SheilaM inon the 7th day, god rested, we overran .
his perimeter, and stole the globe.
marines .
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Hamas is a troll. Dont feed the trolls.
Terry