I don't agree that science will make everybody athiest. For me, the more science I learn, the more of a believer I become at the most basic level. That is that there is intelligent design involved in our existence. It does not mean I believe or agree to everything or anything stated in any book or popular ideas about this entity.
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Science proves there is a God
by seekchristonly infusion with god natural .
in the cosmos universe or whatever.
all things are made of the same materials etc so humans will always be fused with the universe in life and death because those building blocks are eternal.
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Questions to ask God while in a Lucid Dream...?
by EndofMysteries inassume that all 'visions' in the bible, including revelation, etc, were actually real and they happened while those people were lucid dreaming or in a lucid state.
assume that if god or angels were to speak to you, that is the way in which they would do it.
the 3 questions are about anything and the proof question is asking him something so you can verify the answer or the answer will give you absolute proof that it was him you were speaking to and it was not just in your subconscious making him up and the answers.
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Oub - how do you know? the earliest writings are around 3500 bc. almost any writings, older than all those living today can't be 100% verifiable.
Let's say 300 years ago God appeared to a group of people, did all kinds of signs, powers, etc. They wrote down what happened. It could be disputed if it really happened, or if the writings are real, even if proven to be from this group if what they saw was real or some hallucination, etc.
I've thought of many reasons for silence and no verifiable proof 'today' if there is a God.
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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'
by EndofMysteries inin the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".
par 9 and 10 .
9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.
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longhair - In states like Florida and CA, atleast 15+ years. I know in more conservative areas a JW party consists of having a picnic at the park and singing kingdom melodies or something like that.
Russell was the only one who didn't shy from public and open debates. I think it was after the fake rutherford took over the whole religion changed. He was embarrassed by being called out on his false prophesies, indulgent lifestyle, and angry how many left following him.
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Idiotic WT reasoning for birthdays
by Batman89 inadditionally, birthday celebrations tend to give excessive importance to an individual, no doubt one reason why early christians shunned them.
(ecclesiastes 7:1) so you will find that jehovahs witnesses do not share in birthday festivities (the parties, singing, gift giving, and so forth).
school and jehovah's witnesses p.18.
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The only reason I can think that they don't mention anything about that is because a real burial cost money, and then people might give less to contribution boxes and miss a couple of meetings and field service to pay for burial vs cremation.
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Idiotic WT reasoning for birthdays
by Batman89 inadditionally, birthday celebrations tend to give excessive importance to an individual, no doubt one reason why early christians shunned them.
(ecclesiastes 7:1) so you will find that jehovahs witnesses do not share in birthday festivities (the parties, singing, gift giving, and so forth).
school and jehovah's witnesses p.18.
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Birthdays are stretching it in JW reasoning. However, cremation even christian religions, almost all of them, forbid it until almost the 1950's, and some still forbid it I think. Cremation was a pagan practice, a rejection of earthly/bodily resurrection, and belief in immortal soul, etc. It's interesting since WT likes to be extreme, that they weren't extreme with that as well.
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The End of The World Delusion
by cassuk11 inbeing pushed by religion since the 17th century.
my question is why ?.
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What about end of the world by man? It's a fact that the bible lands weren't always desert. Thousands of years of cutting down trees, farming, fishing, hunting, etc, the land just died.
With population exploding worldwide, expansion, more need for resources, pollution, how long really until the Earth dies? or human population gets wiped out then the Earth regenerates.
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Questions to ask God while in a Lucid Dream...?
by EndofMysteries inassume that all 'visions' in the bible, including revelation, etc, were actually real and they happened while those people were lucid dreaming or in a lucid state.
assume that if god or angels were to speak to you, that is the way in which they would do it.
the 3 questions are about anything and the proof question is asking him something so you can verify the answer or the answer will give you absolute proof that it was him you were speaking to and it was not just in your subconscious making him up and the answers.
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The questions I'm going for so far are, 1. What is our purpose and if there is an afterlife when and in what form would it be? 2. If we must do anything, why not make it so clear, appear to the whole world, etc, instead of so much guessing? 3. where will I and family be after death?
For proof question to confirm it's not subconscience - tell me something about a family member or close friend that nobody except them knows I can confirm or a breaking news event for the next day, etc.
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WT admitted "Jehovah" is not God's name...
by Watkins inif i remember right(unlikely, lol) it was a one-page article about the tetragrammaton which concluded by saying that even though "jehovah" was 'probably' not an accurate pronunciation, it is a widely-recognized and accepted english transliteration of the divine name.
i was thinking it was on the last page or maybe the back cover of a wt pub - maybe a watchtower.. can someone please direct me to the publication it was in?
i read it when i was still 'in' and it made me stop and think about how much emphasis the wt puts on that name, all while knowing it's not the name.
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It's in the old "Aid to Bible Understanding" book under Jehovah.
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Questions to ask God while in a Lucid Dream...?
by EndofMysteries inassume that all 'visions' in the bible, including revelation, etc, were actually real and they happened while those people were lucid dreaming or in a lucid state.
assume that if god or angels were to speak to you, that is the way in which they would do it.
the 3 questions are about anything and the proof question is asking him something so you can verify the answer or the answer will give you absolute proof that it was him you were speaking to and it was not just in your subconscious making him up and the answers.
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Replying to Oub - That is where a proof question would come in. For example let's say he told you some detail about a person that they never told anybody before, and you ask them and it's true. Some type of information or detail that your subconscious can't possibly get right. Or something very specific that would happen the next day, etc. At the very least that would leave no doubt you communicated with someone or something.
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Questions to ask God while in a Lucid Dream...?
by EndofMysteries inassume that all 'visions' in the bible, including revelation, etc, were actually real and they happened while those people were lucid dreaming or in a lucid state.
assume that if god or angels were to speak to you, that is the way in which they would do it.
the 3 questions are about anything and the proof question is asking him something so you can verify the answer or the answer will give you absolute proof that it was him you were speaking to and it was not just in your subconscious making him up and the answers.
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Assume that all 'visions' in the bible, including Revelation, etc, were actually real and they happened while those people were lucid dreaming or in a lucid state. Assume that if God or angels were to speak to you, that is the way in which they would do it.
You can ask God only 3 questions and 1 proof question. The 3 questions are about anything and the proof question is asking him something so you can verify the answer or the answer will give you absolute proof that it was him you were speaking to and it was not just in your subconscious making him up and the answers. What would you ask?
The reason for this thread....
I've had many lucid dreams. If you have never had one, it's when you become aware you are dreaming and you are shocked because the world is so vivid. Just KNOWING that anything you can do and want will happen, you can do anything. I've recently though how many of those visions they were probably in a lucid state. They had full consciousness yet they were still asleep. I have never thought to try to summon God while in a lucid dream. If it's possible and he did respond and it was not just my subconscious, then I'd need to already have questions ahead of time to ask and a proof question. The proof question is maybe something about a person that nobody knows that I can verify with them on it, or some event that will happen, etc, something that can be confirmed that you would have no way of knowing prior.
I'm curious what you would all ask and what your proof question would be.